Date:   10/3/2011 3:05:30 AM ( 13 y ago)
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 >- First of all she was making wild claims about parasites being the cause of various diseases including diseases

Are you even aware that the lowly virus is a parasite?

Actually you are wrong.  Viruses are not even considered alive let alone a parasite.  It is these bogus type claims that keep giving alternative medicine a bad name.

As are most bacteria, protozoa, and fungi that live within our bodies.

Still wrong unless you are completely changing the definition of parasite to fit your needs.  Otherwise, by the accepted scientific definition you are wrong.

>- in her first book she had incomplete schematics as well as she states any frequency above I think it was 32,000hz.

My copy did not say this, at least as I recall, I loaned it out and never got it back.

Well, if it was the first book then we had the same copy and as I said she did not give complete schematics and she DID NOT specify a frequency.  This is why so many people were on message boards complaining about her first book.

Additionally, I have rarely seen any book where the second addition was identical to the first. Have you never heard of a work in progress.

Have you heard of first copy, which is what I had?  Maybe she made the corrections by the time you got your copy.

>- really discredited the field including Tesla, Lakhovsky, Moray and Rife

I included Rife and others, just did not have the time to mention all

>- I have seen many of these lists include a known cancer causing frequency on many of the "cancer treatment" frequencies

Great, share your great wisdom with us and expose those frequencies. I for one am always eager to hear true scientific evidence to the contrary.

You are?  Since when?  You have ignored all the evidence I have presented on the "Liver Flush Debate" forum, and have never posted any real evidence yourself.  The one I am really interested in is how you think they obtain magnesium sulfate from calcium carbonate derived from seawater as you claimed.  If you can explain that process then you deserve the Nobel Prize for achieving the impossible!!!

>- many of the frequencies are simply being made up.

Possibly, but not likely. Some of the frequencies were determined using inaccurate equipment. I have seen some so called Rife generators off by a factor of 10. Many of these units do not specify their accuracy or their resolution.

It does not matter if they are off or not as you claim when they are wrong in the first place.

>- Rife unit out of Germany. The list had different frequencies

Not familiar with that unit but just because they have a different set of frequencies, it does not necessarily mean that either is wrong. Just like the study that I posted does not match the original Rife frequencies does not make either wrong.

If you knew anything about electrotherapy, cancer and its origins then you would know why it works.  Hint, it is not the frequency that is doing it.

>- they were off by one number each.

Yes, older equipment, especially equipment of the 1930's was not as accurate as some of what we have today.

Funny thing is that the one frequency was right on.  The other two were only off by one each, so pretty accurate.  But still way different than the made up frequencies being passed around on frequency lists.

Go back to the Clark's original claim of any frequency between a few Hz and a few hundred kHz will have an effect that will kill some parasites eventually.

Think about it, if a parasite has a resonant frequency of 396,000 Hz, then it is likely to be affected by 99 kHz, 24,750 Hz, 6187.5 Hz, 1546.875 Hz,386.71875 Hz, and so forth. The fact is that for and one resonant frequency, there are many others that can produce ringing at that frequency. Also, note that in many cases, the frequency need not be exact, it can be off by a fair amount and still cause sufficient ringing.

Think about it, if frequencies can kill parasitic cells then some frequencies will also be able to kill human cells, which is why accuracy and not "any frequency" is important.

And again, the effects Rife was getting was not really from "ringing".  If that were the case then Rife would not have narrowed his list of frequencies down to a few related frequencies.  Instead there would have been thousands of different frequencies to match the rate of the thousands of different pathogens, parasites, etc.

If Rife could have continued his work then maybe he would have one day stumbled upon the key as to why different frequencies were not needed for different diseases.  As we can see he was already on his way by narrowing down his original frequency list.

>- These fixed frequency units can be built and for less than $100.00 each

A simple unit such as the ultimate zapper can be built and put into a good professional package for less than $40. We sell out cheapest unit for $64.00 and it is a quality built dual frequency unit with a 5 year warranty because people use it. Our more expensive models are more expensive because of cost of microprocessors and more accurate parts. We provide better than 0.2 percent accuracy in our most popular models.

I would not touch a Zapper.  Again Clark had nothing on Rife or any of the other researchers that actually had a clue what they are doing such as Tesla and Moray.  This is why she could not supply complete schematics for her device to begin with, nor could she specify a frequency and the basis for it.  In fact, so many of the claims she made in her books were nothing more than bogus garbage.  So I would not rely on anything she said.  Ironically, the herbs she chose are known for fighting cancer, but not because of anything to do with parasites.

>- personally would never buy a commercial unit since they are more overpriced fluff than functional.

Agtain, your choice to remain ignorant of the truth because it is easier.

If you want to get in to personal attacks and start discussing ignorance I will be happy to link a number of your posts from the "Liver Flush Debate" forum where I have been royally kicking your butt with REAL facts and evidence.

You also seriously err in that statement because not every product is overpriced and not all are fluff.

Obviously you don't have a clue what the definition of my statement is.  If something is being presented as a healing device when it is based on bogus research it is already by definition over priced and fluff.  Just like having a car salesman sell you a Ferrari at full price based on looks and all the toys just to find out that the car has no engine.

I will agree that there are real fluff out there and I have posted about some of them in the past. What you miss again is that there is being progress made.

Yes, progress is being made such as finding out that multiple frequencies are not needed and that there was a related basis between the three frequencies Rife chose to keep.  That was a major progression.  And hopefully in the future it will lead to the production of single fixed frequency devices that actually work and are cheap enough for everyone to afford.  No fancy fluff like digital readouts, multiple frequencies with books to list them all, etc.

If you bothered to read the study that I posted, there is real and valid research there with answers that vindicate the theory while coming up with different frequencies.

LOL!!!!  I did read it as well as another you missed.  Unfortunately, you did not understand the study nor its implications, which is where the real problem lies.  For example, did you realize that they never claimed anyone was cured by this method?  And that the "median overall survival was 6.7 months"?  Chemotherapy can achieve those results, and chemotherapy is quackery.  Again, you need to not only read what you are posting but also understand it!!!

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