Date:   9/25/2011 8:14:25 PM ( 13 y ago)
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You and your refutations are becoming more insipid as the days pass ... and this medical doctor has a bit of a spelling problem that shouldn't be ignored

Making some spelling mistakes hardly invalidates the information provided.  Have you read some of the posts by the LF supporters?  Is what they said invalid simply because they cannot spell basic words properly?  Again the LF supporters are resorting to attacks because they cannot refute the evidence presented with any real evidence of their own.

(besides the all-too-common grudge toward complementary medicine). I can't imagine how tedious your life must be these days, Hv, that you feel so utterly compelled to scour the internet day after day in search of anything that will invalidate liver flushing.

LOL!!!  First of all the fact that you are making this about me instead of "liver flushing" just further proves my point that the LF supporters have no real evidence of their own to refute the evidence that has been provided against "liver flushing".  Challenge the information, not the poster if you can.  If you cannot then the evidence posted stands.

By the way, I do not spend my day looking for information bashing "liver flushing" as you falsely claim.  I had this link posted on my own forum a long time ago so I already had it.  And the fact that you have been unable to refute any of the evidence presented by the article just validates the claims in the article.

If you are so learned, as you certainly promote yourself to be, why is it so difficult for you to 'let go' of this time-consuming pursuit of yours, evidenced here in this forum, and just accept that you do know it all, everyone else knows comparatively little, and that you should perhaps move on, give up on the idiots here, and focus on your own forum where your advice counts?

There is a simple reason I spend so much time on Curezone and why I started my forum.  There is a lot of bogus and dangerous information floating around on the internet about health.  Maybe you do not care about people's health and safety, but I do.  And in order to keep people safe they have to be aware of the facts, not made up hype about products and procedures.  So long before I came to Curezone I was educating people about alternative health on the AOL boards as well as other boards.  When I found Curezone I found that health misinformation was being posted rampantly, but anyone trying to expose the myths on various boards were being banned to censor them.  So I started my forum so I can post the facts with evidence without being censored like I have been by power hungry moderators that did not like having their beliefs challenged with evidence.

I mean, aren't you doing marvelous things there?

Glad to hear you think so as well as my followers.

Why is it so important to you to be 'right' all the time when it comes to issues of the liver, anatomy etc?

Why should it bother anyone when the information is being presented with evidence?  Don't you think that there are plenty of people out there that want to know the facts?  Don't you think that there are people out there that want to know the potential dangers of some of the stuff posted on Curezone before they end up in the hospital?  If someone really believes in a procedure then they should welcome other opinions and should be willing to address any claims they disagree with using evidence instead of personal attacks.  The ONLY reason people would come back with personal attacks in lieu of real evidence is because they realize that the procedure is bogus and they have no real evidence to counter with.  But at the same time they don't like to admit they were duped, so they lash out instead.  Just like when people are taken in by a con.  They don't blame themselves for being so stupid.  No, instead they want to put 100% of the blame on the other person.  There really is no difference here other than the reason they lash out.  When people realize they have been duped in to doing the "liver flushes" they clearly do not want to admit they were duped.  But they cannot blame the person for exposing the scam, so their only other option is to attack the person exposing the fraud so they do not have to admit they were duped.

I think you're a pain in the ass and a bore ... but I kind of feel bad for you that you keep flogging the dead horse month after month, year after year.

Thanks for proving my point above.

If you must speak about liver flushing, why don't you post of your own personal experiences, or at least of those experiences that you witnessed firsthand? That way we know you didn't just get it somewhere on the internet or make it up. You are doing what that Moreless guy did way back - copying and pasting but without hands-on experience to give credence to it. Have you heard of him?

Yes, I am familiar with Moreless.  I challenged many of his ludicrous claims.  But I do not have to stick my hand in to the fire to know it is going to burn.  Most of learn throughout life and verify claims that are made since not everything touted on the internet or in books is true.  Then there are those who will follow the crowd blindly because they do not want to know the truth.  They use excuses like of course cigarettes are not bad because I have been smoking for 40 years and have not developed cancer yet.  So don't blame me because I am not one of those people who blindly follow the crowd.

Now, if you have any real evidence that "liver flushing" is for real I would love to see it instead of wasting time reading personal attacks against me in lieu of evidence that clearly does not exist to support "liver flushing".

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