Re: A thought on LF by Hveragerthi ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum
Date: 9/22/2011 1:26:47 AM ( 13 y ago)
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As for your "flat-out wrong" statement. You are wrong. My statement is true and relevant which is why I posted it. The small intestine is 6 meters long with innumerable folds adding to its surface area while the colon is only 1.5m. Majority of the intestinal flora reside in the small intestine, which is where they assist in breaking down food and are absorved by the villi. The only situation where there may be more microflora in the colon is if you are counting a very large stool that has not passed. I am referring to the intestinal lining microflora.
A possible exception, perhaps. But "flat-out wrong"? It sounds like you have a hidden agenda.
Again someone needs to learn how the body really works:
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/G/GITract.html
The Large Intestine (colon)
The large intestine receives the liquid residue after digestion and absorption are complete. This residue consists mostly of water as well as any materials that were not digested. While the contents of the small intestine are normally sterile, the colon contains an enormous (~1014) population of microorganisms. (Our bodies consist of only ~1013 cells!)
Most of the species live there perfectly harmlessly; that is, they are commensals. Some are actually beneficial, e.g.,
http://www.enotes.com/microbiology-encyclopedia/microbial-flora-stomach-gastr...
In humans, the small intestine contains low numbers of bacteria, some 100,000 to 10 million bacteria per milliliter of fluid. To put these numbers into perspective, a laboratory liquid
culture that has attained maximum bacterial numbers will contain 100 million to one billion bacteria per milliliter. The bacterial flora of this region consists mostly of lactobacilli and Enterococcus faecalis. The lower regions of the small intestine contain more bacteria and a wider variety of species, including coliform bacteria such as Escherichia coli.
In the large intestine, the bacterial numbers can reach 100 billion per milliliter of fluid. The predominant species are anaerobic bacteria, which do not grow in the presence of oxygen. These include anaerobic lactic acid bacteria, Bacteroides, and Bifidobacterium bifidum. The bacteria numbers and composition in the large intestine is effectively that of fecal material.
http://www.scq.ubc.ca/microbes-and-you-normal-flora/
Compared to the stomach, the small intestine is a relatively hospitable environment [5]. However, the small intestine presents microbes with a new challenge—high flow rates. This makes it difficult for bacteria to colonize the small intestine because they get washed out very quickly. As a result the concentration of bacteria in the small intestine remains relatively low (106 bacteria per ml) and human enzymes carry out most of the digestion processes. Minimizing the concentration of bacteria in the small intestine may be a strategy that our bodies have adapted in order to avoid microbial competition for high value nutrients such as simple sugars and proteins.
In the colon, things slow down. While it takes about 3-5 hours for food to move through the small intestine, it takes 24-48 hours for food to travel through the colon. This slower flow rate gives bacteria in the colon time to reproduce so that they reach very high concentrations (1012-1013 bacteria per ml). Bacteria packed into the lumen account for about 35-50% of the colon contents and for around 2 lbs of total body weight in an adult. The colon is a holding tank for bacteria that participate in the end stages of food digestion. For it is here that bacteria are presented with polysaccharides that cannot be broken down by human enzymes. The process of polysaccharide degradation in the colon is referred to as colonic fermentation. These polysaccharides are derived from plant material (eg. cellulose, xylan and pectin) and from human cells (eg. the polysaccharides that glue intestinal cells together) and are readily degraded by colonic bacteria. Polysaccharide fermentation results in the production of acetate, butyrate and propionate, which are used as a source of carbon and energy by mucosal cells of the colon. Thus, the colon can be considered an organ of digestion where bacteria do the majority of the work.
In the developed world, where nutrients are plentiful, colonic fermentation is not essential for survival. However, in areas where diets are high in plant polysaccharides and easily digestible nutrients are scarce, colonic fermentation could mean the difference between life and death. There is also evidence that E. coli within the colon produce vitamin K, which the human body requires for the process of blood clotting. The colon is a very complex microbial environment that we are only beginning to understand.
Funny thing is how once again the "liver flush" supporters rushed to vote "agree" on the various posts by Michael B even though he was clearly WRONG again. Just more proof of how the "liver flush" care less about the facts. They will vote agree to any misinformation as long as it is posted by another "liver flush" supporter.
Maybe if the "liver flush" supporters spent more time researching and less time attacking they may actually get some of their "facts" correct for once. Just a suggestion.
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