Date:   9/19/2011 7:16:05 AM ( 13 y ago)
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This thread is becoming a bit worrisome to me, as I'm thinking there may be some people starting to think that normal bile from a normal gallbladder could be carcinogenic.  Yikes.

Of course, when the gallbladder is removed, bile directly from the liver drips 24/7 into the intestinal tract, and if that alkaline bile is not mixed with stomach acid or suitably diluted/neutralized, it can be caustic due to it's alkalinity.  And that could surely lead to cellular mutation...no argument there.

However, bile from the gallbladder is typically not caustic.

The pH of liver bile is about 8-8.6, while 
that of the gall bladder is around 7.

Since bile from the gallbladder is typically measured around a 7 (sometimes less),  bile from the gallbladder wouldn't be caustic at all.  YAY!

For those interested in learning how these numbers may vary under different circumstances, here's a few searches:

pH + "liver bile":  http://www.google.com/search?q=pH+%22liver+bile%22&hl=en&num=20&l...

pH + "gallbladder bile": http://www.google.com/search?q=pH+%22gallbladder+bile%22&hl=en&num=20...

For those doing liver flushes, also remember the bile from the liver or gallbladder will be mixed other substances...

-- some amount of stomach acid (pH around 2)

-- lemon juice (pH around 2)

-- or grapefruit juice (pH around 3)

-- possibly Epsom Salts - if it's still high enough in the GI tract to be mixed with the bile/oil/juice (pH of ES --depending on dilution-- commonly reported to be around 6 - 7.4)

--and some pancreatic lipase to assist in breaking down the oil for assimilation (pH around 8)

--various enzymes, saliva, etc (and the effects & actions of the intestinal microbiota)

...so it's highly unlikely any type of 'caustic alkalinity' is going to be happening (probably not even with a 'liver bile' pH of 8.6).

Blessings of health -

Uny

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