Re: Evidence of "giant" stones passing through common bile duct by lisamarie23 ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum
Date: 8/24/2011 10:48:59 AM ( 13 y ago)
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A few points to consider...
Do you live in the U.S.? Have you travelled into the south?
People have doubled and tripled in size over the past 30-40 years. Medical textbooks almost need to be re-written to accomodate for the super-sizing of american bodies. A normal gall bladder is about the size of a pear. (incidentally pears are supposed to be especially good for the gall bladder). I can easily see a case where an inflamed gall bladder packed full of stones could be the size of two pears. Almost everything in the body is elastic, even bones to some extent. during open heart surgery when the rib cage is pried open, it is known to have a certain amount of elasticity. This of course varies from person to person. The bile ducting is composed of smoothe muscle similar to the intestines, and it can no doubt stretch. Have you ever seen a middle aged man with a gigantic belly the size of a woman pregnant with quintuplets? This is not just his skin stretching. It is also stretching of one or more internal organs. Why is it so hard to fathom that other smoothe muscle tissue in the body can also dilate?
I talked with several doctors about this, one who was both an m.d. and a ph.d. in holistic medicine. He had overseen many hundreds of people performing liver flusehs, and he did not blink once when I told him that I had passed very large stones. I have talked with Russian doctors about the flushes. In Russia Liver Flushing is extremely common even among the orthodoxy medical establishment.
Regarding the 12mm size of stents. I am not aware of why they picked this size as the maximum. I will guess this is what is regarded as a safe maximum. It is entirely possible and likely imo that the common bile duct can in fact stretch larger than 12mm, especially for the fraction of a second that a large stone might pass through.
From personal experience, when I passed large stones I did feel a twinge of slight pain in exactly that area right after the flush. The pain only coincided with the passage of large stones. Successive flushes with smaller stones never produced pain. I admit that I was nervous at this point, and I was prepared to go to the hospital if anything happened that was beyond my ability to deal with. But nothing ever happened. I was shocked when I saw gigantic stones in the toilet the next day. When I cut them open and saw green crystals, there was no doubt they had come from the liver.
As a gall bladder can be inflamed, the same can go for a liver, which can then house a remarkable amounts of stones.
Also consider that the people who are reporting extremely large numbers of stones are likely also making stones in between flushes. If the liver is severely plugged up with no exit route for the bile then the Liver Flushing process will be two steps forward and one step backward. The step backward being where new bile is trapped inside the liver.
There are too many factors to account for why people continue to make stones, it could be genetic, it could be dietary, it could be related to environmental toxicity, parasites, etc etc.
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