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Re: I passed liver "stones" with coffee enema--oh well skeptics! by Hveragerthi ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum

Date:   8/21/2011 3:57:28 AM ( 13 y ago)
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 note the olive oil is yellow, not green.

And water is clear going in and raw steak is red going in.  So your point?

What do you think the color of the bile is that plays a role in the saponification of the oil?

i think it is pretty funny that all of these different people from all around the world all had green things lurking inside their intestines. what are the odds of this?

Pretty good since fecal soaps are pretty common as shown by the research article I just posted for you.

another person's stones...

You mean another person's fecal soaps.  If you watched my video series then you would have known that the blobs in this picture are inconsistent in color, texture and shape for real gallstones.  They also show no calcification for their size, which REAL gallstones of this size would have been heavily calcified and faceted.  In addition, it is physically impossible to pass REAL gallstones greater than 8mm in diameter since this is the maximum dilation of the bile ducts even with a bunch of magnesium to relax the ducts. Yet most of those blobs are in excess of 8mm.  Over all there is nothing about those blobs that even remotely make them look like real gallstones.  Just someone's wishful thinking.

http://zap.intergate.ca/images/stones%203.jpg

more...

Soap stones.

http://www.healingformula.net/images/gall.jpg


stones inside a gallbladder...


http://www.angelhealingcenter.com/gallstones.jpg

Note the faceted structure of the real gallstones seen in the gallbladder photo above, but is lacking in all the pictures of soap stones presented such as the first 2 photos.  Also note the color and consistency of the real gallstones in the photo above and then compare them to the first two photos above and the photo below containing soap stones.  See how easy it is to differentiate between real gallstones and the soap stones people are passing with the so-called "liver flushes".  The are so obviously different that even a lay person can tell the difference easily if they are told the facts of what real gallstones look like.

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nNEOB-Lr-UY/TJg4bLLUsiI/AAAAAAAAABQ/3MYW0x7uGfo/s1600/liver+rock+047.JPG

note the crystalline inner structure of the cholesterol. same exact composition as i had in mine. looks nothing like soap. never saw crystallized gall soap. maybe a good idea for ivory's new marketing campaign?

What crystalline inner structure?  What you have in that photo above is clearly clumped saponified oil.  You apparently confusing the glare of the light off the soap stones for crystals because there are NO crystalline structures visible to the naked eye in that photo.  The closest thing to crystalline structure in those soap stones is the water in them.

just a little reminder of one of the many points i brought up in the last round of nonsense. let's assume for a minute that james is correct. as any good scientist knows, repeatability is the cornerstone of good science. how on earth can someone drink oil, pass these stones one time, and yet on another attempt nothing comes out?

This has already been answered multiple times.  It really is a simple concept, all it takes is your reading the answers when they are posted.

the answer is clear that they come from the liver and gall bladder, else people would be able to repeat these results time and again.

Not true.  Again read the explanations when posted instead of ignoring them then repeating yourself over and over.

ok couldn't resist, here's another liver with intrahepatic stones...

And?  Nobody ever denied the existence of liver stones.  Although they are very rare and almost exclusively seen in Asian countries.  And again note they do not look like the green soap stones in several of your pictures.

still no answer from the anti brigade as to how coffee enemas can produce something that looks exactly like these stones with no oil ingested.

Actually this has come in the past and has been answered.  But if you read the links I provided you on fecal soaps  you will also be able to figure it out.  Well, maybe not you but everyone else should be able to easily figure it out.

 


 

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