Date:   8/20/2011 10:25:21 AM ( 13 y ago)
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"So describing what REAL Gallstones look like and their other properties is not proof to you."

Characteristics and composition
Gallbladder opened to show numerous gallstones. The large, yellowish calculus is probably composed largely of cholesterol, while the greenish to brownish color of the other stones suggests these are composed of bile pigments such as biliverdin and stercobilin.
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Images of a CT of gallstones

Gallstones can vary in size from as small as a grain of sand to as large as a golf ball. [1] The gallbladder may contain a single large stone or many smaller ones. Pseudoliths, sometime referred to as sludge, are thick secretions that may be present within the gallbladder, either alone or in conjunction with fully formed gallstones. The clinical presentation is similar to that of cholelithiasis.[citation needed] The composition of Gallstones is affected by age, diet and ethnicity.[2] On the basis of their composition, gallstones can be divided into the following types:

Cholesterol stones

Cholesterol stones vary in color from light-yellow to dark-green or brown and are oval 2 to 3 cm in length, often having a tiny dark central spot. To be classified as such, they must be at least 80% cholesterol by weight (or 70%, according to the Japanese classification system).[3]

Pigment stones

Pigment stones are small, dark stones made of bilirubin and calcium salts that are found in bile. They contain less than 20% of cholesterol (or 30%, according to the Japanese classification system).[3]

Mixed stones

Mixed gallstones typically contain 20–80% cholesterol (or 30–70%, according to the Japanese classification system).[3] Other common constituents are calcium carbonate, palmitate phosphate, bilirubin, and other bile pigments. Because of their calcium content, they are often radiographically visible.

"And the experiments by Spud, the dye tests and the lab analyses all PROVING that they are not real gallstones is not proof to you. "

The dye tests are misleading and are not proof because the cholesterol stones are porous.

"And if you really believe in what you are claiming then you should not be so embarrassed that you need to hide behind a number. So provide your "proof" and let's see who is really behind the claims if you really believe in what you are claiming. Otherwise you just continue to prove I am correct."

Again this is a fallacious argument, you have no idea why this person is using their number, perhaps it is because they don't want the debate to be directly related to a contentious argument on another forum that is technically unrelated. This is no proof that you are correct and saying that is is merely shows you are reaching in the dark.
 

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