Date:   6/8/2011 7:57:55 AM ( 13 y ago)
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So true, Wolf, your comments at the end...they also rarely tell you about home dialysis which is given daily overnight and takes about 1 1/2 hour altogether setting up and taking down yet allows people to feel better as the dialysis is being done over a longer period and more often keeping the blood cleaner. They do not apparently want people to know as they make a lot of money at those dialysis centers.

I also noticed they use fear tactics. My mom was terrified to try it as the dialysis nurse told her "I used to work in the ER and people came in all the time with infections and made her think she could not possibly achieve the sanitary measures well enough but I pointed out to her that nurse's views is skewed as she only sees the people it fails on and has no idea how many do it with no problems or feel better on it.\

One must never forget the medical industry is huge and follow the money..Even if the doctors know they are not gonna tell you,,In fact, they are prohibited by the AMA from using anything other than the AMA approved methods and can and do lose medical licenses if they stray. When I stopped my moms heart attack linked above I told my family allopathic doctor who is very alternative health/nutrition minded that I had stopped my mother;s heart attack and before I could say how or what I used, she said you used cayenne right. She knew but I am sure she would never mention it to anyone with heart risks..who knows what a doctor knows.


I think the average person may know more about alternative heath than the average doctor as they are so busy they often have no time to read outside the medical library and the medical journeys generally do not publish safe, cheap alterative to drugs or publish studies as pointed out by allopathic Dr Lorraine Day (she has some good tapes) who did not want radiation and all that but just a lumpectomy but the Dr refused and she went outside the medical complex and saved her own life with alternative health and had been ostracized for speaking up. She said when they publish things about herbs etc that cannot be patented, the magazine advertisers who are the drug companies can and have withdraw all their revenue in retaliation and the magazine/s went out of business. this precedent then keeps other sin line so doctors will generally not know much on this topic.

I never heard of a doctor oking any of this alternative stuff or showing any intellectual curiosity when people beat the odds. They may ask but roll their eyes and generally cut you off or they say whatever you are doing. keep doing it which is the standard answers when people have these "miracle cures" from their hard healing work


As Schulze so brilliantly reminds us when a doctor says there is no cure what they really mean is their is no cure I know of or was taught or believe in...you are right one must just go their own path and not even talk to doctor as they do not know or realize or want to let you know this can be healed as this giant medical complex will only change when consumer change and say no more or go outside them to get healed or refuse to take a box of drugs. I have never been to a doctor when they did not try to push some drug on me. When I tell them I am not taking drugs they act shocked and try to stick me on some lol


We know from Dr Schulze's book 25 ways to cleaner kidneys (email me for the link to the online free book) that he and his incurables program got people off dialysis and got dead organs again.

He used in most cases in the clinic things specific to the disease (ie--no pop if diabetic and garlic, cayenne and garlic and ginger for the heart nervines and nutritional yeast for the nerve degenerative disorders like ms, eyewash, brain herbs and slant board for vision etc.


He does not to my knowledge post anything he used for the kidney patient though I wrote him a few times asking him to address it, he tends to stick with his most popular products I noticed but that is what the 38 steps I did represent..the additional stuff to use with the incurables ..that is what the things wolf mention are..the mushrooms and the parsley and I am sure he has tried some other stuff in the past.


I only wish I had found that book when my mom was still living as I think if I could have showed her him saying he did get people off dialysis, I think she would have tried it. So I am so glad to know he did get them off as now we know it can be done no matter what doctors say..if we take responsibility into our own hands and find the knowledge and then do the work and changes. In the long run, people who do often wind up healthier than when they first began.

This happened to so many of the great natural healers..first they got very ill and then they learned how to heal themselves and then once healed, went on to help and heal others. Every time we share lie the good people on here do or post our success stories that ripples out and the more people heal themselves the more empowered they are and the more people they reach and teach and eventually the tide turns and the industry is forced to change with them..at one times it was hard to find organic items at grocery stores now they proudly trumpet the number of organic produce products they have and even Walmart is hopping on the natural food bandwagon..why? consumer demand and going where the people and their money go. We have a lot more power than we realize. Already the doctors are recommending herbs and complementary medicine..they now often ask what drugs AND herbs/supplements do you take.

I just was wondering is that due to interactons or maybe they are trying to find out how much business are they losing to health food stores. Eventually they will change as we do as we share and try to help others and spread the word...it will be a long time coming but mark my words it will come.

By the way, I saw a great movie this week called forks over knives on the benefits of a plant strong diet and its effect on health following the work of two doctors Dr. T. Colin Campbell and Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn. Dr Campbell is the author of the china study the largest study ever done on the link between nutrition and health that showed those who eat no animal products or less than 10% rarely have diseases like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis etc. Check out their website to see if it is playing near you.

http://www.forksoverknives.com/


I found one part of the movie sticking with me..a study they did on dairy protein (casein) and rats that showed when it was %5 cancer left when it was 20% cancer came back back and forth. Note that Schulze and Christopher both forbid dairy in a healthy Diet and to heal. I thought that study was pretty stunning and the movie had one informative thing after another. Great viewing..highly recommended.















 

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