Date:   6/1/2011 9:46:35 PM ( 13 y ago)
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I started with curezone over five years ago to get more information about the juice fasting I'd already been doing five years previous to that, and have been absent for some time. When I came back a few weeks ago I was very surprised to see the tides changing, per se', in regards to the attitudes and popularilty of juice fasting especially where weightloss is the only motivation. So, let me just say that I understand your frustration. It frustrates me, too. I completely agree with you that juice fasting is so much more... For me, it's a very personal experience, one that brings me the only real health I've ever known. But I won't deny that weightloss is one motivation, and one that I celebrate.

Any form of weightloss, obviously, will be a miserable failure if the person doesn't make a lifestyle change and I do worry that juice fasting will get a bad name because of those who "try it and fail".

I just wanted to address the notion that a healthy Diet and "exercising till your blue in the face" will NOT cure all things, including weightloss, for all people. AND that obesity can be the result or symptom of a disease, and not just a disease within itself. Now that I've made that clear, again, I'll move on...

Your statement- "We know what I mean by exercise and this does but equate to "Working harder than 90% of society" and wearing that as some sort of badge of honor since the occupational hazards of repetative action motion are well known. It may not apply in your case but you also cannot readily dismiss it. Also I would suggest that you take a detailed and most of all "honest" look at what you are refering to as "eating a somewhat healthy diet". I am personally as guilty as anyone else when looking at at what I thought was a relatively healthy diet. When all is said and done and reality hits the fan the real answer is different when the personal "not I" filters comes off."

Repetitive action was not my problem. I stopped producing growth hormone (at age 25), according to the vast amount of medical testing insurance companies make you go through. It got so bad that opening a jar became a near impossibility. This is not a normal occupational hazard. I've been on growth hormone replacement for three years, now. Oh, and what's with the "wearing it as a badge of honor statement"? Sheesh... I was simply making an example of the kind of work I used to do, for those who may have no idea what a rancher's life entails. It's very hard work. Work that I used to love...

In regards to diet, I am my own worse critic. Having been raised in the world of natural health, since say age 10, when I say "somewhat healthy" I mean healthier than most Americans. I don't waste my time sailing the river of denial. Now, I've never been vegan or only raw foods, so if that's your litmus, I fail. :)

So hey, I appreciate your passion and I think we agree for the most part. You didn't just didn't fall off the turnip truck and this isn't my first rodeo. :)
 

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