Date:   5/8/2011 1:04:22 AM ( 13 y ago)
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URL:   https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1809107

This one was especially interesting since this is the troll that threatened me back a while ago and here is getting an "R" rating for insulting me.

 Gees! Dude! Got to get an eight hour a day job. Your dissertations are rambling, miss the topics, use a lot of theory, hearsay, personal beliefs. True you back up some stuff with actual data but doesn't negate the other issues.

With respect to cancer and MS and Lou Gherigs disease your comments about "DANGEROUS" alkalinity is absolutely irresponsible.

I said alkalosis was dangerous, not alkalinity.  There is a difference.

How many times do I have to point out to you that nothing here on Curezone is as dangerous as cancer.

Actually Curezone is full of something way more dangerous than cancer.  It is called MISINFORMATION.  This is why I spend so much exposing the misinformation spread so thick around here.  For example, all the hype around cesium chloride being effective for cancer.

That seems to be a point you haven't yet taken into account. Scaring people away from therapies is inhumane,

I guess I need to explain a simple concept to you. NOT ALL "THERAPIES" ARE SAFE NOR EFFECTIVE.  If they were then we would have no need for things that do work such as ozone therapy since we would have crap like chemotherapy.  Again, Curezone is full of unproven "therapies" such as oleander soup and cesium chloride, which I have posted on plenty of times.

they are already scared and dont need you saying how dangerous something is that is being used in every country in the world.

Again, chemotherapy has been used around the world, this does not make it safe nor effective.  People really need to grasp this simple concept.

Product warnings and caution statements should be softened, professional, politically correct.

I don't endorse baking soda, however, i have clients who take it, are monitored and doing better. Is it the baking soda or is it something else making them improve,...I don't know for sure.

Again this is a common misconception.  People often equate feeling better with doing better.  But these are not always the same thing.  Again, chemotherapy can make someone feel better by reducing the size of a tumor.  Does this make it safe or effective?  Of course not.  Chemotherapy agents are known carcinogens with a very low success rate for the majority of these drugs.  In addition they suppress the immune system allowing metastasized cells take hold, which is one of the reasons cancers tend to come back in a few years.

Besides, alkalinity is not so much about Ph, as it is about mineral salts keeping membrane polarity from changing and repelling oxygen.

What a total load of crap!!!  First of all pH includes both acidity and alkalinity.  The regulation of pH in the body is regulated by more than simply mineral salts.  For example, we have carbon dioxide forming carbonic acid, which is necessary for our survival.  No mineral salts involved.  Then there is uric acid, one of the body's primary antioxidants, which is formed from toxic alkaline ammonium hydroxide.  Again, no mineral salts as part of these.  Then there is the fact that the kidneys help to regulate the body's pH by dumping hydrogen ions.  But if you want to discuss mineral salts what happens when there is an imbalance of electrolytes, such as drinking too much water?  Is the danger from too much or too little oxygen?  No, it is from swelling of the brain causing the brain to swell within the skull.

As another example showing why you are wrong take for instance when someone runs hard.  They develop a lot of lactate, which is not removed by alkaline minerals, but is removed by oxygen.  This is why we continue to breathe heavy after we stop running hard.  The muscles no longer need all the extra oxygen for energy production so we are not breathing heavy for this reason.  We are breathing heavy so the oxygen, which IS NOT an alkaline mineral, can remove the excess lactate.  As the lactate levels decline so does our respiration.  Assuming though that your acidity prevents the uptake of oxygen by cells hypothesis was correct then we would all be in trouble for the same reason.  Since lactate is acidic running would increase acidic lactate to the muscles preventing oxygen uptake by the cells.  Our muscles would cramp almost immediately and the muscle tissue would die within a few minutes.  In turn all that dead muscle tissue would lead to sepsis and we would die shortly after word.  So luckily your hypothesis is bogus!!!

Sodium does this poorly which is why I encourage heavier salts over baking soda.

Heavier salts?  Like uranium salts? LOL!!!

Inflamed membranes don't absorb oxygen as well,

ROTFLMAO!!!!   Where do people come up with this garbage?!!!!!  The whole purpose of inflammation is to increase oxygen and nutrients to the cells to speed the healing process.  For example, if I sprained my wrist then hormones known as prostaglandins dilate the blood vessels in order to bring oxygen and nutrients to the injured area to promote healing.  It is this dilation of the blood vessels though that is what also leads to the inflammation due to increased permeability of the blood vessels.

so having heavy minerals in good supply raises that absorbtion, called the Warburg Effect.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!  That IS NOT what the Warburg Effect means:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1531698#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1531685#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1531694#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1531689#i

Tissue hypoxia and acidosis causes mutations in DNA.

Again total garbage.  Going back to my explanation about running and lactate disproves this.  you might also want to read this post, which discusses alkalosis causing tissue hypoxia:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1749637#i

So according to your hypothesis creating alkalosis will also lead to mutations in the DNA.  DNA mutations can also lead to cancer, so you are verifying my earlier claim that alkalosis is dangerous that you previously denied.  

I have a cancer patient who saliva ph is 9.0 and his markers are dramatically reversing.

Salivary pH is not a marker of what is going on in the body.  It is just more pseudoscientific hogwash used to con patients in to expensive, unproven "treatments":

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1624899#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1735038#i

His pain is improved, his last pet scan showed layering which indicated cancer was stressed out.

Did he get his dog or cat scanned?  By the way you should also send him for a PET scan.

His alkaline therapy has been going for 90 days now. Perhaps you would think it would be of service to tell him how dangerous his cesium IV is? I know what he would tell you! I know where he would tell you to go.

Actually I have covered cesium chloride previously:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1442701#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1523795#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1474178#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1525662#i

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1643414#i

So food for thought!

If you are trying to win clients, sell something, less is more!

I am not trying to "win clients".  Healing IS NOT a game!!!!  I am here to help people with their health and save lives, which clearly I take more serious than you do.

Disagreeing with someone else doesn't make you an expert in patient's eyes, it only makes them confused and you serve the role as messenger of that confusion.

That is why I don't make unsubstantiated claims of thousands cured as so often happens here on CZ, especially with the unproven oleander soup and many of the alkaline "cures".  If you pay attention to my posts I post evidence of my claims as often as I can to clear up confusion rather than causing confusion by feeding people total BS such as acids blocking the uptake of oxygen by cells.

Don't get defensive and use insults, it reflects poorly on Curezone and yourself.

You mean like your posts frequently do.  By the way how does it reflect on you when you make an implied threat on me offering me $500 for me to give you me personal information so you can find me?!!!!  By the way I saved the post to make sure it did not get deleted or edited.  Here is your quote:

"p.s. i'll pay you for your contact information mr. dangerous! i will pay you for your address, place of employment and full name!!!!! i got an attorney who would like to send you some very informative data. i'll put $500.00 into escrow, you give me your contact information. "

Don't feel the need to argue every single point, a simple research link can do the job.

If you had done your research I would not have to have wasted so much time correcting all your misinformation as evidenced above.

We should all be united in this regard.

I don't align myself with people who do not have a clue what they are talking about.  The "guilt by association" thing you know.

Chronic diseases are a curse of the devil.

Disease has nothing to do with the Devil.

United we stand and divided we,...uh,...well you know!

If we should be united then why have you attacked me in so many of your posts and even threatened me?  Even if you did have even the slightest clue of what you are talking about I would not trust you as far as I could throw you based on your past actions.

Good luck! Use your knowledge, put your ego away. Welcome back.
bp

Of course you had to sign off with an insult.  Nothing has changed about you.

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