Re: Baking soda in water...Good idea? I feel sick... by Hveragerthi ..... Alkaline/Acid Debate Forum
Date: 5/5/2011 9:05:06 AM ( 13 y ago)
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Hv, I believe God is using you to draw people into natural health, mainly because many people are use to putting their trust into medicine, doctors and science.
Even alternative medicines are science. The only people who ignore this fact are the people who make up their own science so they ignore real science since it will expose their fraud. And note that alternative medicines are still medicine and there are medical doctors that work with alternative medicines.
It is very scary for most to totally drop medicine and go into taking personal responsibility for themselves.
And people shoudl not do this if they do not know what they are doing. Furthermore, taking "personal responsibility" also means doing the research to verify whether the claims beign made are bogus or if there is some real science behind it. Otherwise they are not taking "personal responsbility", they are using blind faith in accepting unproven claims. If they get hurt doing this, such as the people in my other post that followed the alkalinizing protocol, then they only have themselves to blame. With the internet people have all sorts of real research available at their fingertips. If they choose to ignore the real science and go with unverfiable testimonials based on junk science then they are simnply asking for trouble. And again they will only have themselves to blame when they get hurt.
Even though you and I do not agree on how to achieve real health,
What is "real heatlh" to you? Following the whims of someone who tells you to drink a concoction that will promote more nitrate formation, which the same person claims is poison?!!! I guess we have real different definitions of "real health". I prefer to stick to alternatives that have been proven to work and are not based on made up, laughable, scientific principles.
I know you have a few tricks up you sleeve that help people feel better.
They are not necessarily tricks when you know the real science behind how the body works as well as the alternatives. Tricks are for those who have to make up their version of science to dupe people in to dangerous protocols.
My hope is that at some point people will realize that you do not have all the answers
I never claimed I did. In fact if you have read my posts I have outright said so. For example I make reference to this in this post:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1803305#i
But there are things that are well known, and not the pseudoscience that is passed around so much on the internet, such as the myth of "liver flushing" and the whole acid causes disease garbage. Alkalinity promotes the growth of a lot of pathogens such as Candida and H. pylori. This is why I rely on proven science and internet hype.
and will seek God's wisdom in healing. I am completely free of Multiple Sclerosis symptoms and have been for 3 years now after suffering since 2001. I know you don't accept my testimony as Science but a human being can observe and learn the laws of healing without being a doctor or trained herbalist.
I once had a more acidic (out of balance) skin mantel and because I was fair skinned and very acidic, I would sunburn very easily....now I do not.....I tan very easily.
First of all the skin is supposed to be acidic. This helps to keep the skin healthy and protects us from pathogens. I posted plenty of evidence on this back when the claim was being made by you know who that the skin was supposed to be alkaline.
And acidity and alkalinity have NOTHING to do with tanning. Tanning is pigmentation by melanin, which by the way requires acids.
One other bonus is that a more balanced skin does not attract mosquitoes as much. I use to be a mosquito magnet....no more. This is all due to not being out of pH balance any longer.
Again pH has nothing to do with this. Using the same argument how would you explain the ingestion of acidic B vitamins repelling mosquitoes?
As far as your disbelief in whether a person's body turns to goo at some point...I would like to add that I watched daily as my Father died of cancer because he "believed" in scientific medicine to save him.
Many of our tissues are naturally acidic or constantly exposed to acids. For example the skin, hair, intestines, stomach, mouth, etc. In all the decades I have been alive none of these parts of my body have turned to goo.
The fact is that we are not only made up of acids, it is acids that provide energy to our cells, it is acids that kill the pathogens that would harm us, it is acids that help us absorb nutrients........
I watched as the heels of his feet started to liquefy as the acids and lack of oxygen/circulation damaged them.
It is not acids that cause the tissue breakdown. The breakdown is from elevated proteolytic and lyosomal enzymes. Again this is why I do not get my information from the misinformation forums here on Curezone.
Nurses know that they must "float the feet" in an attempt to allow more oxygen to get to that part of the body to try and help this from happening. Where ever in the body is an accumulation of acids there is lack of oxygen, so the cells break down.
Again, not true. This is why I encourage people to learn how the body really works from credible sources.
A healthier person could lay in bed the same amount of time as a cancer ridden person and would not experience this as quickly....that is because they have enough alkaline minerals to balance the acids.
Still not true. A patient on TPN receives a lot of alkaline minerals. In fact the saline IVs that nearly every one gets is an alkaline mineral source. Yet the rate of tissue breakdown between immobile patients not being moved regularly is the same regardless of whether they have cancer or not.
Just like we know that our digestive system must have good bacteria and bad bacteria to process our foods well....we must have the positive/negative of alkaline/acids to keep our bodies healthy.
Yes, certain forums here on Curezone DO NOT promote balance, they promote alkalinity, which is a dangerous imbalance!!!
Keep up the good work of drawing in the medically minded people Hv. Perhaps in time their eyes will open even wider to how to have enough faith to take full responsibility for their health.
The people who come to my forum are not all "medically minded". They come to my forum because they like the fact that I rely on known facts of how the body works and common sense. Not ridiculous claims like acidity turns the tissues to puddles of goo or that consuming higher sugar (brix) foods is healthier.
Luckily many of the people who have come to my forum to learn have also taken the time to learn real research themselves so they can weed through the bogus hype and misinformation so prevalent on the internet, especially here on Curezone.
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