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Re: Not true - history repeats itself by Hveragerthi ..... Cancer Debate Forum

Date:   4/1/2011 3:03:11 AM ( 13 y ago)
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Once again, you have taken an opportunity to take a shot at me, 

Actually I never mentioned your name in my post.

once again you have totally misrepresented what happened in the Cancer Support forum,

I did not misrepresent anything.  And since this is not a debate forum I did no bring up any of the games you played either including starting attacks and debates then blaming me or sending PMs to people to recruit them in attacking me in violation of TOS.

 and once again you have posted your minority opinion as fact: namely that the vast majority of cancers are due to viruses. 

Problem with your claim is that it is NOT a minority opinion.  As has been pointed out in the past cancer viruses have been known since 1908, and they have been widely reported in medical journal articles and medical texts.  Just because you do not know how to do basic research and either do not understand the research presented to you or simply choose to ignore it this does not mean that the evidence does not exist.  That would be like your saying China must not exist since you cannot see it from your house.

So all your “once again” statements clearly show that your intent is to once again start a debate like your previous history has shown so many times.

 I will point out that this thread, and thus your message, is cross posted at this time in the Cancer Support forum and I will not let stand a message which asserts that a minority opinion is fact.

Again, it is not a minority opinion.  A minority opinion would be something like oleander soup actually works for cancer.  Please show all of us those many medical journal abstracts backing this claim of yours.  If they don’t exist then you have a perfect example of a minority opinion.  And since you will not “let stand a message which asserts that a minority opinion is fact” then all the messages claiming the minority opinion that oleander is effective for cancer needs to be deleted by you.  Otherwise you simply prove my claim that you have been targeting me and my posts all along.  So better get deleting all those oleander posts since they are a minority opinion posing as facts!!!

Forget all your links to information which indicates a viral link (though not necessarily a viral cause in many instances) to cancer,  How about posting information which will prove once and for all that the majority of people who work with cancer, both within mainstream science and within alternative cancer cures, concur with your opinion that the majority of cancers are caused by viruses.

LOL!!!!  Who do you think wrote all those medical journal articles and texts on cancer viruses?  They were doctors and cancer researchers!!!

So again, let’s see all those researchers that verify oleander soup can do anything other than kill you.  Of course I know I will never see anything from you on this since the oleander claims are of a very tiny minority, and the few abstracts you did present were severely discredited previously. 

Despite you oft repeated opinion, the fact remains that the vast majority of people both within and without mainstream medicine do NOT believe that the vast majority of cancer is caused by viruses. 

Again, where is your proof of this claim.  You keep repeating yourself like a broken record, but you never seem to come up with any proof to your claim.   Simply making the claim does not make it true, just like your oleander claims that have yet to be verified.  At least I am posting evidence to my claims because I know my claims to be true.  You on the other hand continue with your power trip rather than trying to prove me wrong with evidence.

Again I have posted only a small number of the studies out there linking viruses to cancer viruses. And there is even more research off the internet that was published primarily in Europe on the subject.  If you ever learn how to do proper research I highly recommend you look in to it since it will also explain to you the role of viruses in inducing chemo resistant tumors.  It is interesting research by various other doctors also aware of the role of viruses in cancer.

For the most part, they do not even believe that a very large minority of cancers are caused by viruse.  

Again this is your opinion based on either your inability to do proper research or simply refusing to look at the evidence presented to you.  This does not make your OPINION a fact.

Anyone who wants to see proof of that can do a simple Google search for "Causes of Cancer" and they will find that virtually every returned result within at least the first few pages do not even list viruses as a cause of cancer.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!  We went over this before.  This actually is a great example of how poor your research skills are.  You did the search and found nothing on cancer viruses.  Yet I found how many abstracts in a matter of minutes on cancer viruses.  So again your research skills are either severely lacking or you are showing everyone how well you manipulate things to make your point.  How about trying this Google search:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=llsfp&pq=cancer%20viruses%22&...

Wow, nearly 2.5 million hits about cancer viruses.

Then there is this search for human cancer viruses:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=llsfp&pq=cancer%20viruses%22&...

Again nearly 2.5 million hits.

Or this search for oncoviruses (cancer viruses):

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=llsfp&pq=human%20cancer%20viruses...

129,000 hits.

So we have nearly 2.5 million potential sources of information in two separate searches yet you were unable to find even one link to information of cancer viruses, LOL!!!!!!!!!

Regarding your banishment from the Cancer Support forum: As was posted by the WM on your own private forum, the reason you were banned from the Cancer Support and the Cancer Debate forums is the same reason you have been banned from other forums here: because you have a repeated pattern of not behaving civilly or within TOS rules when someone disagrees with you.

The reason I was banned was because of the same games you are playing here.  You keep starting attacks and debates then try to play innocent victim while censoring anyone that proves you wrong or you disagree with.  And as usual you keep distorting the facts.


 

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