Re: MMS is an chlorinated oxidative poison BS by goatz4u ..... MMS - Miracle Mineral Solution Debate
Date: 3/30/2011 6:52:42 AM ( 13 y ago)
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Just a couple of things. Obviously anything can be harmful at the right concentrations so the whole harmful thing is rediculous. Do you use fluorinated toothpast and water? If you do then your probably not that concerned with what an MSDS has to say about harmful. Just because it doesn't list safe concentration levels doesn't mean a little will kill you or even harm you. Most of the things you put in your hair or spray in your house say the EXACT SAME THING. If it is so bad why is it allowed to be used for water purification???????? Lysol kills pathogens but it isn't listed to use for water purification, yet people are not only permitted to spray it in their house but are encouraged.
I do agree with not taking it for extended periods of time. However if your going to say your argument is that it says its harmful without showing safe and unsafe blood levels then your rationality is ridiculous. Find ay document that states <1mcg/Dl is an unsafe concentration in the body. Can't find it? Unless you live in a cabin and live off of the land without any outside chemicals your argument is moot. There are always safe levels of concentration. Also if you are going to make statements like "it has a 40 hour half life in the body", can you at least post a link?
Just for the sake of argument, here is the MSDS for sodium fluoride. The same substance added to toothpaste, and municipal water systems.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_fluoride.html
Very toxic by ingestion, inhalation and skin contact. 4g may be fatal. May cause burns. Severe eye irritant. Chronic exposure may cause lung damage. TLV 2.5 mg/m3 (as F).
Toxicity data
ORL-RAT LD50 80 mg kg-1
IPR-RAT LD50 2 mg kg-1
ORL-WMN LDLO 90 mg kg-1
ORL-HMN LDLO 71 mg kg-1
ORL-RBT LD50 200 mg kg-1
Wow, thats really toxic!!!
I suppose you use fluoride free toothpaste, have a fluoride free water system, and don't take prescription drugs because of the fluoride fillers, because the MSDS said VERY TOXIC. Considerably more toxic than any previously listed chemicals. But I'm sure with your astute knowledge of organic chemistry, anatomy, and endocronology, you would know better than to go near anything bad for you.
Oh, and be sure to provide links to reputable information when you make statements about half life and concentrations.
Just for good measure here is a MSDS for Calcium Fluoride.
http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CA/calcium_fluoride.html
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any toxicological abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)
ORL-RAT LD50 4250 mg kg-1
IPR-RAT LD50 > 1500 mg kg-1
IPR-MUS LD50 2638 mg kg-1
So why aren't we using this instead? It's 50 times less toxic than sodium fluoride. Oh ya, because its cheap! Sodium floride comes from aluminum manufacturing, it is nothing but a by product. The government claims that it is good for your teeth but screw the rest of your body, we're not paying for calcium fluoride, its a bit of a double negative. Not to mention a lot of osteopaths and neurologists would be out of work if they switched. So it all comes down to money, not whats good or bad for us. This is probably why MMS has such a bad wrap.
Now make a solid argument about why sodium fluoide is safer than MMS, because if you cant you are only proving my point.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=210&tid=38
After entering your body, about half of the fluoride leaves the body quickly in urine, usually within 24 hours unless large amounts (20 mg or more, which is the amount in 20 or more liters of optimally fluoridated water) are ingested. Most of the fluoride ion that stays in your body is stored in your bones and teeth.
Also the body adjusts to what you put in it. Thats why alchoholics can drink so much it would kill a normal person.
The point I am trying to make is not that fluoride is worse its that we use it every day, and we use it and are still here. Considering it's 50 times more toxic than MSM, I would be hard pressed to believe MSM is even mildly toxic at 26mg/hr over 10hrs*10days. Chances are your 5 year old eats more fluoride in from his toothpaste than you will use in msm in a week.
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