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Re: The Myths of Vegetarianism by grzbear ..... Vegetarian/Vegan Debate Forum

Date:   2/24/2011 5:40:40 PM ( 13 y ago)
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>>"I got cervical cancer from eating animal products"<<

What kind of animal products? Were they store bought conventional products? Processed? etc.? This is a very vague and generalized statement and doesn't paint an entire picture... what was the remainder of your diet like when you were eating animal products? Sugar, caffeine? processed foods? etc.?

Can you elaborate more beyond *animal products* in your before vegetarian diet?

>>"and since going vegetarian"<<

When you went vegetarian, what were all the changes to your diet that you made? Did you also choose to dump artificial and processed foods? Did you go organic? Or, were you what some people call a Twinkie vegetarian (junk food vegetarian)?

You see... again... very, very vague.

However, this is typical of people who find healing by going vegetarian... they make so very many dietary changes, stating simply that it was *just* the vegetarian diet is a huge stretch.

Stating, I ate meat and got sick, and I ate vegetables and got well... is not the whole story by a long shot.

>>"the cancer went away (no meds or surgery)"<<

That is great. I hope that you kept accurate documentation through it all, and will publish a detailed book about your experience.

>>"Read The China Study."<<

I have... it is a masterful work of compiled correlations... but does not prove causation at all. Reason being... you cannot emulate, or compare the types of diets related in the book.

Where did their food come from? Did they grow it themselves? Was it local foods? Processed foods? Was it sprayed heavily with pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, avicides, was it GMOs, were there processed foods with food additives of all kinds?

These questions were left largely unanswered, and they all change the game.

Bottom line - What matters is the quality of the foods you eat, and their nutrient density.

As an example, and to emphasize my point...

The Inuit, before modernization, ate 95 to 100% animal foods and about 60 to as high as 80% animal fats, while having a non-existent rate of cancer. With modernization, and processed foods, the rates started to go up... and they are going up in China, along with obesity as foods become more industrialized and processed.

With the industrialization of China, you can find cancer clusters everywhere there is industry... China published its own study the year of the Olympics and found that well over 250,000 people in China die every year from air pollution related cancers alone.

Bottom line... in my mind... civilization and its industries, including its commercial food *production* methods, that include all kinds of *cide* and pharmaceutical use, are more the culprit here than any single way of eating.

Yes, *food* can be a contributor to cancer rates... meats and dairy specifically so, due to the confinement practices that breed and raise, diseased animals, along with the feeding to those animals, pharmaceuticals, industrial waste products, Genetically-Modified-Organisms field waste, etc., that makes for cancer causing animal products...

Most of the animals (the grass\vegetation grazing animals) were never meant to eat garbage... must less grains... and it makes them, and their products sick and disease causing.

As far as grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, and produce goes... it is the nutrient poor hybrids, bred for appearance, the chemically contaminated, the industrially processed, the chemical additives, the Genetically-Modified-Organisms foods that are the cause of increasing cancer rates as well.

It is very well known that all of the *cides*, used on food crops cause cancer, among other diseases... with GMOs increasingly being suspect... and as China increasingly goes this route, so will their cancer rates regardless of whether they are vegetarian or not.

grz-



 

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