Date:   2/20/2011 8:32:49 AM ( 13 y ago)
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> There is a huge issue with Hveragerthi believing & insisting that he "knows more" and defending that belief (for a 'belief' IS what it is)

I did not say "People who believe and insist they know more", I said "People who DO INDEED know more." Or do you believe that to be dependent on psychological factors?

> But there ARE other types of healing methodologies & concepts than what Hveragerthi (or many of those who believe the way he does) understand or believe in.  Just one, very relevant example of that can be found in this thread: http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1755445

I read the whole thread and can say without any doubts that there are indeed "other types of healing methodologies & concepts than what Hveragerthi (or many of those who believe the way he does) understand or believe in" But, sorry to say, yours is not a "very relevant example".  Hv is correct to say that "there is no evidence that emotional issues play a significant role in most cancers" because there really arent´t. And mind you that I have seen cancers healed in my own experience as a therapist for 30 years now, but unfortunately ALL the cases I did get a chance to monitor for more than 4 years had recurrences though there were many I could not monitor. As for the affirmation "various cancers have been completely eliminated by emotional therapies and emotional healing" that is only partially true as I made clear in my example above. And if there is verifiable proof that these were permanent healings (which makes all the difference), please tell me where to get these references so I can use them myself. Also throughout the whole thread it is quite obvious that charkee knows much less than Hv about cancer physiology and updated valid medical facts (and in here I remit you to my original assertion that people who DO know more, etc...). And, lastly, we are, not doubt, a holistic/interactive system, but when things get so toxic that they surface as illnesses on the physical level it is obvious that, primarily, a physical measure has to be taken. And, the way I see it, secondarily, other approaches may also be simultaneously helpful.

>Does some perceiving they "know more" or being gifted with "a special talented mind to preserve, remember and augment their knowledge" ever give them the right to respond to another poster like this? or use this type of language?

Not really, but as I also said "Not so healthy, but quiet understandable!". After all we´re not enlightened, we´re still humans. Also, not all these remarks are "disrespectful, rude, accusatory and slanderous" in my perception. Actually,on the light side, I also had good laughs.

>Those who believe that their "Truth" is the only truth may indeed, feel like others are ignorantly arrogant, in stubborn denial, or attacking them.

You are twisting what I said.  Therefore I will not comment on this, except that cunningness to revert and provoke attacks is not the same as "attacking".

>But CureZone encompasses the freedom for every poster to share whatever information they feel is valid.  No one should have to deal with 'the above' type of responses for sharing their opinion or belief with others.

Sometimes it happens though, and when it does, why not consider it as part of the hazzards of disagreeing and just move along with it until it simmers on it´s own....what´s the problem with that? That´s the way it is even in Nature. Not all days are sunny.

>Since much of the information upon which true science is based is a total "knowledge paradigm".

It is a good thing you were cautious when saying much of the information, because there is truly precious information nowadays that are useful and effective but it takes people who "go deeper in their studies and have a special talented mind to preserve, remember and augment their knowledge" to sift through them profoundly, with common sense and correctly, so they can be truly useful.

>But I don't think that gives me the right to be rude, disrespectful, accusatory or verbally abusive to someone that disagrees with me.

NO...but again, I repeat, it may happen depending on circumstances, so what´s the big deal? People are supposedly adults and if some do not act maturely it will show...and that is per se a fiasco for them, right? But what may be "rude, disrespectful, accusatory or verbally abusive" to some may not be to others, all depending on perception (please read my post to the webmaster at http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1772865#i. Furthermore, more often than not disagreeing with HV is not the only issue with his opposers.... And that was one of the 'points & purposes' of my original post..

PS: There are far worse things that are done under the disguise of poise, coolness and adequate behaviour, which in reality are manipulative strategies to get personal agendas through. Those are the real TOS violations in my view.

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