Date:   2/10/2011 3:36:15 AM ( 13 y ago)
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Its a bit refreshing to hear from someone who has some knowledge of biology at least for once. lol

Okay thanks for the answer on chemo. I do believe chemo to be ridiculous. In fact, its funny you mention Ozone because I wanted to bring up a guy my age (25 or so) that had a late stage melanoma cancer and he had a tumor on his leg and I sought him out and made contact from an unknown web blog I read and he told me that through ozone and some immune injections (not sure which) with Dr. Rashid Buttar (who I very much respect and aspire to be like), he is now cancer free and has been. The tumor turned black and fell off eventually.

Anyway, regarding the metals. Why do you disagree? This is in combo with another question I have/topic of discussion which is, is ALL cancer linked to viruses? I happened to have found one of your posts on this matter and am reading through the links and the first link mentions that about 10-20% is viral linked. Depending on the virus and cancer. Is your opinion that ALL cancers are caused by viruses? Based on what I know of human biology as well as medicine, the oncogene insertion into the host DNA does not necessarily become expressed unless there are mutagens or oncogens that turn them on. This mechanism is still not very well understood of gene expression but I would categorize heavy metals and metal toxicity as a mutagen. Mercury for example, among others like lead, cadium, etc. literally work in the body as if you would drop a wrench into an engine. It binds and destroys everything, and puts the body under heavy oxidative stress. We all know the damage that oxidative stress puts on genetic material and if heavy metal toxicity is the TRIGGER that expresses the oncogene, then treating the virus or immune system is only half the battle. Metals suppress the immune system as well. From a metabolic standpoint, I cannot see how any amount of herbs or immune boosting drugs can help a body that is not functioning properly on the cellular level due to literal blocks in the cellular processes.
Also, there is SO much medical literature on the link between metal toxicity and cancer and Dr. Buttar touches on cancer and metals all the time. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between.
Getting rid of metals and chelation therapy alone is not going to cure cancer. But if the cancer is caused from that particular toxicity which hinders the cells from doing its basic functions, it's another layer of problems that need to be addressed.


I read somewhere where you stated that there is NO human oncogene and that all oncogenes (over 100) are all viral. Do you have any literature or links I can read on this topic? Given the fact that viruses are everywhere and the manner in which it spreads, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone had an oncogene of some type in their DNA. And oncogenes can very well be passed on if it is incorporated into the germ cells. My idea is that oncogenes are a problem, yes. If they do indeed come from viruses, addressing the immune system to react better to the virus would only be preventative. Once the virus has incorporated the genetic material into the host DNA, it is only a matter of bodily dysfunction before it becomes virulent and capitalizes on the body's weakened state. The WEAKENED state, can be due to all sorts of things including heavy metals, pesticides, adrenal, leaky gut, Antibiotics , you name it. At THIS point, addressing the virus doesn't seem like a viable option to me but I'm open to enlightenment if you feel otherwise.

Basically I dont think its a matter of the virus being active once you are diagnosed in late stage cancer. It has already done its job and the reason the oncogenes are expressed and causing cellular issues is due to the MULTITUDE of carcinogens and mutagens in our environments, AKA "toxicities" (which i avoid cause it has a quackery connotation/ring to it).


 

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