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What an interesting topic!

Differences about Bob Beck’s blood electrifier and Hulda Clark ’s zapper are not so different, when you analyze them on a technical point of view.

Mr Beck was a bright, clever, genial innovator and inventor.
Dr Hulda Clark was an indefatigable searcher, with good acknowledge of electronic, frequency use (She had an amateur radio license) and certainly a bright, clever, very intuitive person.

I have a GREAT respect for these both persons, and their work, and I suspect some competition between both, having discovered, by different paths, the working effect of direct micro-current in a living being, about at the same time.

I have built and used the second version of Bob Beck’s blood purifier.
I have built and used MANY versions of Dr Clark’z zappers.

Generally speaking, I found trials with Bob Beck’s device good, but not outstanding.
(But I found Colloidal Silver a real life saver in many problems)
Probably I had not much to cure in my blood, at test’s time.
I found trials with Hulda Clark ’s zapper simpler to use, and having a MUCH wider effect about almost everything.

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Calzone : I had some good results with a zapper working with only 3V output. And at least a zapper with a steady 5V (MZ5b) has many happy users out there. Standard zappers works best with 7V and up, but becomes unpleasant to use when having an output higher then 12V.

The Godzilla project uses a diminutive device, the GodRods, using 2 “D” cells in series and two sponges as electrodes, with good results. Its effect is wider than the Beck’s blood cleaner, but certainly not as good as Beck’s device for blood cleanse, where it outperforms (with its special placement) any other device (for blood cleanse).

Note about Mr Baby_grand, inventor and moderator of Godzilla forum, at health.groups.yahoo :
These devices are VERY INTERESTING to know, but if you presents yourself as a sympathetic Hulda Clark’s work/zapper, you will be an unwanted guest Bob Beck’s aficionados are welcome

Note about both Beck’s blood cleanse, and Clark’s zapper : They are each a very good tool inside a larger Beck’s protocol, or Clark’s protocol.
They are not by any means, the only and ultimate tool for all and everything, as some claims.

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Calzone : You say that
>> “For zappers ( Hulda Clark , Royal Rife) it is the specific FREQUENCY of electric current, which delivered to the body through electrodes supposedly can kill specific organisms, parasites, viruses etc. due to the resonance effect unique for each of them”

I agree with Royal Rife devices, working with resonant frequencies.
Where did you found this affirmation on Clark’s devices?

I have the 6 books of Dr Clark, and NOWHERE I could find a reference to her zapper being a “frequency device, killing “specific organisms, parasites, viruses etc. due to the resonance effect unique for each of them”
Can you help me on this one?

Can you tell me what ““specific organisms, parasites, viruses etc” are removed with the 30kHz frequency?
Thanks

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Calzone : You say that :
>> “For Beck Blood Electrifier it is the AMOUNT OF CURRENT delivered into the blood, which (according to Kaali US Patent) can kill all known (and not known) bacterias, viruses, parasites, fungi etc.

And I agree with this statement

But there is an interesting part on this sentence.
>> “ Frequency is NOT important (however most devices use 4Hz as recommended by Beck)”
>> “ If you talk about Beck BE you should stick to original Robert Beck papers, as he designed it. He never mentioned any frequency effect. The original Kaali patent was about pure DC current. Beck has chosen AC 4Hz only to avoid electrolysis.”

You certainly know that Mr Bob Beck, before building its zapper according to Kaali work, did huge good work on very interesting devices like “the Brain Tuner”, using Very Low Frequencies.
These frequencies “whispers” to the brain in a language it understands.
A very good frequency to try is 7.83Hz (Schumann frequency), or 8Hz, if you haven’t the precision to go with 7.83Hz.

You say that the alternative current avoids electrolysis, and you are right.
A negative point for Clark’s zappers, when you REALLY exaggerates its use on the same spot.

Kaali tried alternative current, but found-it ineffective, compared to direct current.
Why then Mr Bob Beck used an alternative current?

For a human being, if you send a POSITIVE pulse now, and a NEGATIVE pulse, one week later, can we consider this as “alternative”?
Theoretically speaking, yes. Practically speaking, I don’t think so.

The question is : How fast pulses should follow one each other?
The hidden question could be : How fast a living human being can react to feel a change of polarity?

I found that 30Hz to 100Hz seems a good guess.

So 4Hz IS NOT perceived as an alternative signal, but as a direct current “changing of polarity”.

And this leads to another interesting point :
If 4Hz is perceived as 4 positive pulses + 4 negative pulses, you reach a repetition rate of 8 times per second, with the equivalent of a Direct Current changing polarity. Interesting!

To resume :
= Mr Bob Beck, to replicate Kaali experiment, needs a Direct Current (for the living human point of view), and not an alternative current (from the same point of view).
= Because taking in account the high voltage used (27V), he wanted to avoid electrolysis phenomenon. So changing polarity time to time was obvious.
= Because he is aware of Very Low Frequency effects, he makes the choice of around 8 pulses, build of (4positive) + (4negative) pulses.

So using an “alternative” voltage of 4Hz permit him to meet all these criteria.

Really clever!!!

Another interesting point : There is out-there some Beck’s blood electrifier working with much higher frequencies, defeating this genial combo.

To resume even further, we can see and feel that both devices, Beck’s BE and Clark’s zapper are using a really small amount of direct current to kill pathogens (a few mA) on the skin.
This current is safe enough to be applied on the skin of an human being, and should remain around 0.1mA where the pathogens are.

Please, understand this : Almost everyone is talking about voltage, when current (and its control) is mandatory.
Voltage is an “electrical pressure” permitting to current to flow into a load (me).
Amount of current is what it is IMPORTANT. At the source for safety reasons. At destination for efficiency purposes.
Voltage, with a changing load, is not so important, as far as it is safe.

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A last point, Calzone :
>> “So now you see that Robert Beck was rather skeptical about zappers effectiveness.”
Robert Beck, as anyone else, doesn’t have THE TRUE, only his true.
Remember the “electroporation” of Beck’s device?

I use (and build) Hulda Clark’s zappers because being efficient enough for many, are much easier to use, are more available. You can buy well built zappers at cheaper prices, and are much more popular, for all these reasons.

Check Zapper Forum s. Not all “anecdotal” claims can be endorsed by a placebo effect.

Still, if I had a major problem on my blood, I will certainly switch to Beck BE for some time (:-).

 

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