Date:   10/28/2010 8:47:52 PM ( 15 y ago)
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"If we all had the same opinions, life would be pretty boring. Were it not for great people such as Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, and Mahatma Ghandi, who thought outside the box and led us to new ways of viewing life, we'd keep plodding along on the same paths as before. Enlightenment can come to us in many ways, shapes, and forms ...

Dialogue is more effective when done using words in a co-operative, non-confrontational, non-judgmental manner. It can open the doors to higher consciousness."

I agree that life would be pretty boring if we all had the same opinions. Martin Luther King, fought the oppression of his people, much the same way as many others had in the past and today, using the same methods as he, thinking outside the box, not really, having the support of many, definitely, being a great orator, absolutely.

Mother Theresa, lived and thought within the box of the catholic religion. Thinking outside the box, not likely, lots of supporters, yes.

Ghandi, probably the only one who did actually think outside the box IMO.

As for dialogue being more effective when done in a co-operative, non-confrontational, non-judgemental manner. I disagree.

How, when discussing an issue such as abortion, with two opposing views, on the right of a woman to choose, is it going to be discussed in a co-operative manner? Unless you mean the both sides co-operate to make sure the discussion stays on topic and doesn't degenerate into name calling. This has been tried and failed on this forum, because many of the no-choice supporters cannot seem to post without attack on other posters. (yes this is a judgement, and an opinion, but one born out of the evidence contained on this forum).

As for non-confrontational, there will be no discussion of an issue, such as abortion, without confronting the realities of the issue, such as religious influence, oppression of women throughout history etc etc. Confronting the issue is necessary. Attacking the poster is not.

Non-judgemental, perhaps in the sense that posters are not judged as liberals (in a derogatory manner), murderers, (although none here has committed any murder), pushers of abortion, (though none here advocate abortion), satanists or evil, (judged from a religious view point, when people have pointed out that they are none of these things), perhaps when these terms are not used the discussion would be less judgemental. MB has given some very good definitions of the terms used by the pro-choice side of this issue. Ones that define the positions of the proponents, without being derogatory.

Maybe there could be some effective dialogue, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.

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