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Re: Long term digestive enzyme use by Hveragerthi ..... Candida & Dysbiosis Forum

Date:   10/9/2010 5:27:02 PM ( 15 y ago)
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 I have to disagree with you on Digestive Enzyme Safety.

Then we will have to agree to disagree.

I'm quite familiar with bitter herbs and their stimulative effects on digestion. But they are not replacements to enzyme therapy, particularly when the individual lacks the capacity to produce enough of a particular enzyme such as Lactase, which is common. You could take bitters until you were drunk and it wouldn't help. They are, however, useful and complementary to Enzyme Therapy.

Lactase is an exception because the bitters stimulate the enzymes produced by the body.  Lactase is produced by the intestinal bacteria (flora).  If people want to correct a lactase deficiency they are not going to do it by taking lactase, they will do it with probiotic sources.

Further, Enzyme production in humans is regulated by a complex feedback system in the Upper GI mucosa. That system senses when we have sufficient pancreatic and digestive enzymes and down-regulates enzyme production FOR THAT MEAL ONLY!

If you say so.  Do you have studies as to the long term effects on enzyme production by the body when being substituted for long term?

Also how do you know that these people are lacking these enzymes?  Unless you are testing their levels there is no way to know for sure.  Things like gas and bloating can be other things other than a lack of enzymes the body normally produces.

Another problem I have is some of the enzymes being promoted are not natural to the human body, such as cellulase and hemicellulase.  In addition these enzymes actually just end up feeding the Candida.  This is because the digest SOME of the Candida breaking them down in to sugars that feed the surviving Candida.  And they digest the fibers that would normally be food for the flora that would otherwise feed the flora that keep the Candida in check.  Instead the fibers get digested in to sugars that will either go in to the bloodstream and/or feed the Candida depending.

"Lack of Incident" does not mean lack of side-effects, which are incredibly mild to non-existent in this case. It means "Lack of DEATH OR SERIOUS HARM!"

Not true.  ANY adverse event is classified as an incident.  Serious is subjective, which is why incident does not define mild or severe.  For example, a study done on ozone therapy followed over 6.5 million doses given.  There were about 32 adverse reactions reported.  Most of these were simply pain and/or redness at the injection site.  Yet these were still listed as adverse events again because it was not normal.  If we redefined "adverse events" to only deaths or serious harm then who is to determine what is "serious harm"?  We feel that emphysema is serious harm from cigarette smoking.  But the tobacco companies are not going to consider it a serious adverse event both to reduce liability and to make their products appear less dangerous than it really is.  Again this is why adverse events are ANY incident, not just events that some person may feel is dangerous or possibly led to someone's death.


Allergy is another matter entirely.

No, allergies are also an adverse event that can also lead to serious harm or death.

If you think something I wrote is ambiguous, ask for a clarification.

This is much ado about very little. The person that started this thread just wants to know if long term digestive enzyme use is safe! And it is. End of discussion.

They asked if the enzymes shut down the body's production of enzymes, which they do as the studies have shown.  End of discussion.


 

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