Date:   9/24/2010 10:25:31 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Hello Kevin,

There seems to be a whole lot of misunderstanding, so let's start at the beginning.

MMS is 22.4% sodium chlorite. This solution has a PH of about 12. Since its PH is above 7, that makes it alkaline. Measure yours and see what you come up with.

The Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol calls for adding some acid to the sodium chlorite when you mix up a dose. This is similar to acidified sodium chlorite. This forms chlorous acid with a PH of 2.5 - 3. Since the PH is lower than 7, that makes it an acid.

The Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol goes on to advise people to drink this chlorous acid in various concentrations to the point that they become ill, then to back off a little until they condition their bodies to take higher concentrations without adverse effects.

When I took chemistry, organic materials had carbon in them...

You should go back and re-read what I wrote...

I'll save you the effort and repeat it here. I said

[quote Tom]"Dissolving 10 grams of sodium chlorite in 8 ounces of fluid will result in a very high concentration that is not stable, and can explosively activate upon contact with acids or in the presence of heat." [end quote]

Perhaps I was not clear enough. If you mix up 10 grams of sodium chlorite powder in 8 ounces of water and bring it into contact with an acid, the reaction can be explosive. You were suggesting that your solution could be put into a pill and ingested. As the pill dissolved, the contents would come into contact with the HCl in the stomach. The reaction of sodium chlorite with acid produces heat. The higher the concentration of sodium chlorite, the more heat is given off during the reaction. Your suggested pill may cause a lot a damage to the stomach.

Putting that solution into a banana will be uneventful because the banana is not acidic. Try it with a lemon or a lime and you will end up with an aggressive, and perhaps explosive, reaction.

Simmering such a solution may be enough to activate it, and that would also be very interesting.

While avoiding chlorate is important, the water purification process targets chlorite. The current regulations specify limiting chlorite to 1 PPM. Chlorite is a free radical that can damage the body at higher concentrations. Using chlorine dioxide alone to purify water is limited because about 70% of the chlorine dioxide forms chlorite, and the levels of chlorite are regulated. This limits the gross amount of chlorine dioxide to a concentration of 1.4 PPM. When those amounts are exceeded, additional water treatment must be done to scrub the chlorite out of the water.

In 1981 a test using chlorine dioxide in water (keeping in mind that this is different than acidified sodium chlorite) and monitoring for adverse effects in humans. The test ran for 12 weeks during which each person drank a liter of water a day that had a concentration of 5 PPM chlorine dioxide. No adverse effects were observed.

Jim Humble is fond of referring to the "Lubbers" study and claims that proves that the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol is safe and causes no harmful effects in the body.

Here is a way to approximate the solution used in that study. This will be slightly more acidic than the solution used in the study, but it will give you an idea of what a chlorine dioxide concentration of 5 PPM is.

In a measuring container, put 6.25 grams of sodium chlorite powder and add enough distilled water to make a total solution of 100 ml. Stir until all of the powder has dissolved. You now have 100 ml of 5% sodium chlorite.

Next, you will need to pick up some muriatic acid from the local building supply store. Muriatic acid is hydrochloric acid. It usually comes in around a 32% concentration. You will need a 6% concentration to use, so if your HCl is 32%, you would put 18.75 ml of the 32% HCl in a measuring device and add enough distilled water to make a total of 100 ml. You now have 100 ml of 6% HCl.

Next you will need a container that will hold 1 liter of water. Put 1 liter of water into the container.

Next, in a separate glass put 0.2 ml of the 5% sodium chlorite and add 0.2 ml of the 6% HCl. Swirl to mix. The easiest way to measure 0.2 ml is to use a 1 ml syringe.

Next you add the activated solution you just mixed up to the 1 liter of water. Chilled water is not necessary at this concentration of chlorine dioxide.

You now have 1 liter of water with a concentration of 6 PPM chlorine dioxide in it. This is higher than the 5 PPM used during the Lubbers test, but is close enough to give you an idea of this concentration.

Notice the color, odor, and taste. You can drink this concentration without experiencing adverse effects. The people in the Lubbers study drank this for 12 weeks without any adverse effects.

My water is slightly alkaline with a PH of 7.2. Using this solution I end up with slightly acidic water with a PH of 6.2. This is still not chlorine dioxide technology, but it comes close to it.

Jim Humble claims that a concentration of 1 - 5 PPM is all that is necessary to rid the body of pathogens. This solution has 6 PPM chlorine dioxide in it and I invite you to compare it to a normal dose of MMS according to the MMS protocol.

http://www.coleparmer.com
has chlorine dioxide test strips. Pick some up and measure the concentration of chlorine dioxide in the various solutions. Chlorine test strips don't give an accurate measurement of chlorine dioxide.

If a concentration of 5 PPM is all that is needed, the question arises that perhaps the problem has to do with using a solution that has too high a concentration of chlorine dioxide in it rather than the PH of the solution.

Tom

 

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