Date:   8/17/2010 12:58:58 AM ( 14 y ago)
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 Cooking food can have benefits by oxidizing dangerous compounds in raw foods such as goitrogens, certain enzymes such as thiaminase and pathogens.  It can also make certain foods easier to digest and increase certain nutrients.

You're right, that's why we don't eat most of those uncooked foods, because we can't tolerate them without burning them up.

Who said anything about burning them up.  You do not have to burn up foods to inactivate the toxic substances in the raw foods and make them more digestible.

What I wish you would come to see is that taking something 'with some good stuff' and torching it to make it palatable is no different than the pharmaceutical companies taking 'good stuff' isolatedly and patching it together to make a 'healthy' pill.

That is a massive stretch.  They are not even close, and again the reference to "torching" again is an exaggeration.

No other animal needs to cook to thrive, so why should any health minded individual cook to survive? 

Teach them to use a lighter and they would probably do it since they would not have to wait for their food to basically digest itself first.  Look at how many predatory animals hang their kills in trees or bury it allowing the enzymes to help break down the raw meats before consuming them.  Also keep in mind that we are not lions, or wolves, or cows.  We are humans.  Do you know why wolves can eat old bacteria ridden meats that would poison a human?  Because they produce much higher levels of stomach acid than humans do.  It is this higher stomach acid content that kills the bacteria.  So just because other animals can eat certain things raw does not mean humans can do the same thing.

Unless you are poor and don't value your health, there is no reason to do things the unnatural way

Hmmm....  Naturally animals that eat meat generally chase down their prey and clamp their teeth down around their prey's neck until dead.  Then they rip open the animal and eat the stomach and intestines with its partially digested contents first.  Since you are so in to "natural" I take it that this is how you get your raw meat?

Furthermore, cooking doesn't just do 'good things', it's destructive.

If overdone.  But you have this "torching" fetish, which is not required for cooking.

 It manipulates things, like a 'chemical experiment' each time.

And as we let raw foods sit they undergo a number of chemical changes including the growing of dangerous pathogens. So they are going to pros and cons regardless.

The heat from cooking causes new substances to originate from proteins reacting upon carbohydrates. Some of these new substances can cause cancer, brain diseases, and impair neurotransmitter function and metabolism.

And again eating many foods raw can lead to hypothyroidism, which can increase inflammatory homocysteine that can lead to cancers, heart disease,..............  Eating certain raw foods can also interfere with other things in the body, such as biotin as I have pointed out.  Other raw foods can contain liver cancer forming aflatoxins, including raw meats, raw eggs, raw fruits and nuts.  Of course cooking can destroy these strong carcinogens.  Should I go on?

Beta-carbolines are also anesthetic and can cause unnatural constipation in adults.       

Better avoid fruits altogether then since beta-carbolines are found in tomatoes, pineapple, bananas, kiwis, oranges, grapefruit, lemons, apples, pears, raisins, etc.  They are also generated by the body.

By the way coffee is loaded with beta-carbolines yet it is classified as a laxative.  So how do you explain this?

Wheat is an issue to anyone who is susceptible enough to opiod peptides or consumes enough wheat products to become constipated.

And again anything in excess can be dangerous, even water or oxygen.  And anyone can have sensitivities to pretty much anything including the fruits, eggs and meat you advocate.  This hardly makes it a major issue.  And you fail to take in to account the whole plant chemistry, which I find interesting since you were just complaining about the isolation of specific substances by the pharmaceutical companies.  By the way it is not opiod peptides like you keep stating, they are opioid peptides.  If we isolate the opioid peptides from the laxative portion of the wheat, which is the bran, of course you are going to get different properties.  This is like I have mentioned so many times that if I isolate the coumarins from alfalfa I can get a totally different effect that the whole plant since the alfalfa plant contains counterbalancing vitamin K.  So you are no different in your reasoning than the pharmaceutical companies.

By the way you are again overlooking the fact that the body also produces opioid peptides.

Bottom line is that you should do your homework from credible sources before posting so you are not always posting erroneous and misleading "facts" you learned from some propaganda website.  I don't have the time to keep correcting your erroneous claims.

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