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Re: HV ??? by dvjorge ..... Candida & Dysbiosis Forum

Date:   8/5/2010 12:43:05 PM ( 14 y ago)
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I have taken around 250 liters of Kefir since 2008 to present. ( 4 or 5 by week) Kefirs has L. Casei, L. Lactis, L. Acidophilus, L. Plantarum, and L. Rhamnosus.
I have also taken almost every famous probiotic brand you find in the market. Hundreds of $$$$ spent. So, if there is a Benefical Probiotic strain unknown by Science which keeps candida in the proper levels, we are wasting the money with Kefir and probiotics. I still think you need to eradicate intracellular candida once it mutates to that form. No matter if you recover the flora or not, when candida mutate to mycelial, it penetrates the cells and is a pathogenic infection that needs long term systemic drugs. I can not think of any other thing that can deal with an intracellular infection. Even the stronger immune system in this world can not eradicate it by itself. A combination between a good immune system plus systemic antifungal drugs may do it. Keep in mind that pathogenic candida is able to suppress the immune system eating live cells. It also suppress the " suppressor cells" (lymphocytes) which are responsible to defend you against an auto-immune attack. My point is the infection must be treated in spite of any effort to recover the gut microbiota. The final goal must be to recover a proper Cell-mediated immunity. A balanced immune system is the most important thing to finish with a candidiasis.
Jorge
 

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