Re: Comparing hot dogs to vegetables and natural fruit sugar to HFCS? - edited to delete duplicate info by chrisb1 ..... News Forum
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Gerson and Scientific evidence.
You know as well as I do that unless there is a profit motive then virtually no research is done in that area. The same can be said for Water-only-fasting and Natural Hygiene principles which offer no financial incentive for any research. However, hundreds of thousands of testimonials abound as with many alternatives here on Curezone: me being one of them.
Cancer is cancer whether you call it pancreatic cancer or whatever, the name only differs by its location. This is true for any disease ending in "itis": it is only the location that prefixes the name.
I am not surprised that lumping HFCS with fructose together arrives at the conclusions stated in the study: perhaps they should have conducted separate studies of HFCS and then with carbohydrate complex fructose, and I think the results would have been markedly different.
The link I posted on regarding man has eaten fruit for eons was actually this one...........
http://www.livescience.com/history/080429-nutcracker-man.html
Regarding the consumption of Vegetables and Cancer........
"You can plot all you wish but it proves absolutely nothing until you take it to a scientific community for peer review. Come back when you've done that".
Well, here are just a sample of some of the studies..........
Michaud DS, Spiegelman D, Clinton SK. Fruit and vegetable intake and incidence of bladder cancer in a male prospective cohort. J Natl Cancer Inst 1999; 91(7):605-13.
Link LB, Potter JD. Raw versus cooked vegetables and cancer risk. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev 2004;13(9):1422-35.
Miller AB. Nutritional aspects of human carcinogenesis. IARC Sci Publ 1982;(39):177-92.
Higdon JV, Delage B, Williams DE, Dashwood RH. Cruciferous vegetables and human cancer risk: epidemiologic evidence and mechanistic basis. Pharmacol Res. 2007; 55(3):224-36.
Steinmetz KA, Potter JD. Vegetables, fruit, and cancer prevention: a review. J Am Diet Assoc 1996 Oct;96(10):1027-1039.
Lee SA, Fowke JH, Lu W. Cruciferous vegetables, the GSTP1 Ile105Val genetic polymorphism, and Breast Cancer risk. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008; 87(3):753-60.
Rose P, Huang Q, Ong CN, Whiteman M. Broccoli and watercress suppress matrix metalloproteinase-9 activity and invasiveness of human MDA-MB-231 Breast Cancer cells. Toxicol Appl Pharmacol 2005(10);S0041-008X.
Johnston N. Sulforaphane halts Breast Cancer cell growth. Drug Discov Today 2004;9(21):908.
Srivastava SK, Xiao D, Lew KL, et al. Allyl isothiocyanate, a constituent of cruciferous vegetables, inhibits growth of PC-3 human prostate cancer xenografts in vivo. Carcinogenesis 2003 Oct;24(10):1665-1670.
Finley JW. The antioxidant responsive element (ARE) may explain the protective effects of cruciferous vegetables on cancer. Nutr Rev 2003 Jul;61(7):250-254.
Seow A, Yuan JM, Sun CL, et al. Dietary isothiocyanates, glutathione S-transferase polymorphisms and colorectal cancer risk in the Singapore Chinese Health Study. Carcinogenesis 2002 Dec;23(12):2055-2061
Q. "How do you explain the increase in Type II diabetes in the primarily vegetarian country of India? They eat fruits and vegetables - not ham or hot dogs".
A. A largely processed diet, inactivity and obesity.
"The emergence of type 2 diabetes in India, coinciding with the country's rapid economic development in the past several decades, is often characterized as a modern epidemic resulting directly from westernization"
References.....................
1MedlinePlus. Type 2 Diabetes. Available at: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000313.htm
Accessed April 2007.
2International Diabetes Federation (IDF) 2006. Diabetes Atlas, 3rd Edition.
3Diabetes UK. What is Diabetes? Available at: http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-todiabetes/
What_is_diabetes/What_is_diabetes/ Accessed April 2007.
4‘Diabetes in Australia’. Australian ‘Don’t Ignore Diabetes’ campaign. http://www.dontignorediabetes.com.au
5Votey SR & Peters AL. Diabetes Mellitus, Type 2 – A Review. Emedicine; January 2007. Available at:
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic134.htm
6 International Diabetes Federation (IDF). Diabetes and Cardiovascular Disease. Available at:
http://www.eatlas.idf.org/Complications/Diabetes_and_cardiovascular_disease/
Accessed April 2007.
7International Diabetes Federation (IDF). Complications. Available at: http://www.eatlas.idf.org/Complications/
Accessed April 2007.
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I have been mostly vegan for over 30 years and eat a wide variety of fruits, but cancer-free so far. I wonder how many frugivores contract cancer?
Please do not lump HFCS with fructose from fruits: they are Worlds apart.
"we are now consuming natural fructose as NEVER before that fructose and carbohydrates (which all create Sugar in the body) are killing us"?
Strange? as the main fuel-source for the body is from carbohydrates.....the body mainly feeds from glucose unless we are in ketosis all of the time by restricting carbs'.
Again do not confuse refined carbs' with complex and unrefined carbs'.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5286188_three-sources-energy-body.html
Beer drinking. Now there's a good idea. Probably because it was the only clean source of fluids, unlike the water at that time.
Chrisb1.
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