Re: biological facts by actualhealth ..... Fasting: Debate
Date: 7/13/2010 5:17:23 AM ( 14 y ago)
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ah mighty.sun.tzu, what happened to all that sweetness and light? a good steak perhaps and feeling feisty now ;-)
don't panic your only imagining things. an actualist only seems like a bull in a china shop to a dreamer. nothing in that non-actual realm can be shattered without the dreamers consent - how else do you think humanity has remained so deluded and unchanged for so long.
i'm simply a fellow human being and a friend, and a very different one at that. i often say: "the facts will set you free but first they will piss you off" (and in your case even the mere request for them?). so don't blame me mighty.proud.one, i'm not here to offend or debate anyone, merely discuss the facts and share my own experiences.
in Chris's case i simply asked whether he'd ever been given the medical records confirming his leukemia and type. when he replied in the negative and that the records including his re-test - after his *miraculous* fasting cure - had been trashed by the hospital ??? it was only natural to wonder why on earth he'd chosen to 'believe' them then when one would expect he (of all people) would be more likely to consider them wrong (as he usually does).
another reason i asked about this undocumented yet cured cancer he constantly advertised was because i naturally wondered whether he too was guilty of the same thing he accused the medical profession of, to wit: making snake oil money, only in his case out of selling a book?.
in fact the alarm bells rang the moment he responded to such inevitable questions in an offended and defensive manner (a response btw - i later discovered - he'd shown on another forum). and i was also curious why he encouraged others to fast over 30 days yet had never documented even one 24 hr fast of his own in all his 5 plus years here?
in fact just before he became offended - a behavior one exhibits when one wants to aggressively stop an inquiry - i was going to ask whether he'd ever considered (now that Science has more info) that he may have only had MBL (monoclonal B-cell lymphocytosis) a precursor to B-cell lymphocytic leukemia which 3% of the population have but which rarely progresses into a full blown leukemia. in fact there are 4 basic types of leukemia and many subgroups, yet Chris doesn't even know which one he had! ??? i find that strange indeed.
so no, mighty.proud.one, unlike you, i do not blindly accept anyone's cyber-word for anything let alone that fasting cured an *undocumented* cancer and therefore find it quite obscene to have my perfectly reasonable inquiries called "relentless" "obnoxious" "attacks" as you did.
in fact if it weren't for the mass of gullible sycophants mindlessly eager to 'leap' to the defense of their wannabe guru, guide, master, leader, despot, without a skerrick of evidence for their claims, most power tripping BS artists wouldn't have an army to back them. its only because there's always been a mass of "useful idiots" (google it, its a well known phenomena) willing to jump on someone elses shonky band wagon and ride like a screaming banshee into battle (in an attempt to SHUT OTHERS UP) that we fail to become an intelligent civilized well informed species.
...so please calm down mighty.proud.one. thats the detox you really need to work on (the most important) it frees the body to look after itself unburdened by knee-jerk emotional reactions and silly puppy loyalties in a world where we now have a vast reservoir of documented data to research, cross reference, examine and explore experientially.
here's another probably unwanted fact:
fasting is FORCING especially when you go as far as you did with it (wreaking your heart exercising excessively too soon after) and you the marathoner of forcing should also know: if one is not fasting involuntarily the way a sick animal does, then its FORCE plain and simple. if it wasn't there'd be no need to warn about its dangers, no need for fasting gurus, no need for forums like this, and no need to behave like a freaked out bigot defending unsubstantiated claims.
forcing the body to cannibalize itself is not something to beat one's chest about on a forum mighty.proud.one. "know thyself" and that human aggression, domination and pride is behind it.
as a suggestion; instead of repeatedly taking extreme measures to restore and maintain the health of your body, try being sensible from the get go. applied knowledge kindness and common sense is really all you need.
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