Date:   6/29/2010 4:54:17 AM ( 14 y ago)
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 spud...

i think you are right in a way. maybe this thread got a bit personal.

Yes, and you are still posting lies and personal attacks about me in this post. So do you get some type of cheap thrill over belittling others just because they post evidence you are wrong?

i think the person made an interesting point about all the people in the world who are consuming high fat foods and no soapstones are being released.

And again, what normal person is going to go digging through their feces looking for soapstones or cholesterol-sterol complexes? If everyone were that obsessed with digging through their feces then I am certain that more people would find these pseudostones. But most people prefer to flush their waste rather than play with it.

if you read the forums there have been scores if not hundreds of people who all report passing stones from liver flushing. 

So what, the chemical reactions that occur in the intestines have been explained over and over. What do they expect when these known chemical reactions occur in the intestines? I mean it is like if I decide to put an ice cube on a hot skillet. Should I expect that something other than melting is going to occur even though melting of ice from heat is a well known science fact?

someone asked hv to make a soapstone in his lab using oil, Epsom Saltsand digestive enzymes. that seems like a good start

First of all I was not asked directly. Secondly this is something that has already been demonstrated over and over. These are well known chemical reactions. By the way, digestive enzymes are not involved. They are not needed for saponificaiton reactions or for the formation of cholesterol-sterol complexes. But even if I did do this experiment for you I know you would just find some way to ignore the proof just like you have ignored the proof that the so-called "stones" people are claiming to have passed that are 25mm or larger in diameter CANNOT pass through the bile ducts. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!! Yet you keep ignoring this fact as well and keep insisting they are gallstones. Same with the fact that when these so-called stones were analyzed they were found to not be real gallstones. So I am not going to waste the time or money to repeat experiments that have already been done countless times just so you can ignore this evidence as well. If you want to see it as I told you earlier take an organic chemistry class and have you professor show you how it is done.

no one has ever done this though

Yes they have. It is a common demonstration in college organic chemistry classes. Why do you keep repeating this lie even though it has been proven wrong so many times? Is this another of the false claims you read on a bogus flushing site somewhere?

if it is a simple chemical reaction of 'sterols' then it should be easily REPRODUCIBLE. this is one of the cornerstones of science, no? 

And is has so many times. It amazes me how much time you spend arguing about something you obviously do not understand instead of researching the facts so you would understand why your hypothesis is flawed.  Why are sterols used to reduce cholesterol? Simple, they have a high affinity for cholesterol in the intestines, which prevents  the reabsorption of the cholesterol. Again this is simple, well known science. But he who refuses to look will never see the truth!!!!

hv has consistently baited and ridiculed people on other forums when disagreeing with him. karma does seem to be at play here.

Another personal attack. What you are not telling people is that I never attack anyone unless attacked first since I treat people the way they treat me. So were you trying to be deliberately misleading again?

but, the difference between you and hv is that you don't go around belittling others,

Another personal attack. What was that you were saying about karma?

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