Date:   6/19/2010 1:27:43 PM ( 14 y ago)
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I have not read what others said yet, but did read your original posts and want to mention that Victoria Boutenko found that when raw foodists drink green smoothies/juices,. they do not lose weight like others do or they did before but maintain a healthier weight, not too thin  The biological/physiological reasons for weight gain or weight loss (or failure to do either) are FAR more complex than whether one is a raw foodist drinking green smoothies & juices.

Also as a food food faddist with her family, the 4 of them were raw foodists about 13 years when they found their excellent food starting to age them again and a search lead her to green smoothies and green juices (of course it you are juicing only you would not do the smoothies but the green juices taking no pulp and consuming the juice within 15 minutes not holding it over in the refrigerator but making fresh each time. When consumed with no food and pulp all the vital elements go to healing and repair and not to digestion and drinking it within 15 minutes is necessary lest the enzymes dissipate. Please read this thread to understand more about enzymes and how the true actions of enzymes  A question FROM Unyquity - Enzymes - does exposure to air kill them...or...   And of course, we know Dr. Schulze suggested and explained how to juice in canning jars:  Juicing in canning jars , even for his patients that were on death's door.   Remember, digestive enzymes are sold in capsules (totally dry and exposed to air for days/weeks/months), yet they're still effective.  I'm not suggesting freshly-juice juices are not beneficial (or possibly even more beneficial), I'm just clarifying that we can stop the majority of oxidation by using the 'canning jar' method.  (People doing the IP are overwhelmed enough without it being insinuated they have to do things they don't really have to do).

To make the smoothies combine the fruit and greens in a blender with water/ice if wanted and if making the green juices just juice the fruit and greens adding or not adding water as you wish.

Mix fruits like berries, apples, banana (not for juicing), pears etc with any of the following greens or other greens not mentioned:

kale, Swiss chard, turnip/radish/beet/parsley root or radish tops, spinach, romaine, celery, bok choy, parsley, watercress, broccoli, any Asian market green and sage wild greens like dandelion root, plantain, daisy-violet-strawberry and other leaves, burdock, purslane, cleavers, and lamb;s quarter,.

Be sure to alternate the greens daily taking none for more than 2 days in a row lest one get sick due to plant chemicals. :::sigh::: People don't get sick from drinking the same green juices more than 2 days in a row - that's just silly.  Sure, too much of anything will kill us or make us sick...but that's not due to "plant chemicals", it is due to "too much" (of anything).

Also consider Dr Schulze's complete incurables program leaving nothing out. email me if you want the links to the save your life manual and videos. Apparently you haven't taken the time to read the OPs posting history.  I always suggest that before offering suggestions or advice, that those that feel like they may be qualified to assist others...at least take the time to read what the person in need has already shared & posted before making suggestions and/or asking questions.  Those that are seriously ill or compromised have plenty of stressors without having to type/retype and explain things they've already explained & typed.

I think you need to convince your mother to watch the film by Victoria Boutenko,read the testimonies on what a 85% raw food, vegan, whole foods diet did to help people be cured of every illness at hacres.com and watch the incurables series with you. Maybe if she hears it from other people, she will see this stuff helps and not harms people.  I agree that it would be good if it were possible for her mom to see the SYL videos (and to educate herself)...but from what we know so far (mother forcing a psych admission), it's also possible that the ultra-strong disclaimers at the beginning of each SYL video (that one should never do anything without a "doctor" and that natural remedies can backfire and be harmful for some), could possibly make things far worse than they already are now  (of course "we" know why those disclaimers are there, but someone with a strong allopathic mindset would likely 'use them against' whomever is trying to convince them).

As far as doctors, about 20 of them told my in law she was imaging it and nothing was wrong..all my relatives (but me) thought she was hypochondriac finally she was diagnosed as having a few very serous illnesses which has destroyed her life. I know the incurable program and the hallelujah diet has helped others with her ills and she begged me to help her but when I tried to get with her she would never return the call as I guess she either does not believe or thinks it too hard to change or thinks she knows it all (she is very medically oriented and reads prescription drug books as a hobby, so I was unable to help her despite her telling me she was going to kill herself as she was suffering so badly and that she would do anything., so doctors do not know everything.  Agreed.  They know FAR less than everything...and virtually nothing about actually healing.


I think if you are being forced to see a psychiatrist and take dangerous drugs that are now thought to cause permanent brain damage, you need to move out if you can.  Our bodies have phenomenal abilities to restore themselves.  I can't see how telling someone that's compromised and stressing that she may have been forced to take drugs that cause "permanent brain damage", could 'help to sooth' or increase positive/healing emotions & energy.  Besides, it's HIGHLY unlikely that taking these drugs for just a few weeks could cause permanent brain damage.

You can buy reverse osmosis water for about 40 cents a gallon with a refill bottle at grocery stores, Kcirla lives in France - this may not be the case there.  you can do without dehydrated foods or look online/garage sales for ones maybe down the road you can afford and get your produce at farmer's markets that are just starting. if money is tight the manual link I can give you gives many of the formulas and if you can get 80-100 proof vodka you can make these yourself and save a lot of money..I save as much as 90%..the videos show you how to make tinctures it is easy..I also have the directions on how to make a tincture if you need it. the rest you will have to get at herbdoc.com  While I agree making tinctures is very easy and not as expensive as buying them, the availability of organic herbs in France may well be an issue.  As far as the underlined section, you are quite aware that my husband and I have an Herbal Apothecary that contains FAR more of the products for the Christopher/Schulze IP than any virtually any other source (in fact, in the past...it seems to me, that before I responded to a post of yours that you apparently didn't care for here: Substantial misrepresentation of Dr. Christopher's protocols! Re: help ... ...you suggested our Apothecary as a source in other posts).  And you are (likely) already  aware that Dr. Schulze (herbdoc) doesn't even make/sell the full range of products needed for the IP.

The only way "herbdoc" (Dr. Schulze) will ship internationally is via Global Express, which means even one small bottle of tincture will cost approximately $75+ to ship.  Not only are our herbal offerings much higher in caliber (we tincture tinctures for several months before pressing), our prices are around 30-40% less...and we use the least expensive shipping available (unless someone requests 'Express').

We started our 'Apothecary' years ago  in order to save money ourselves.  We continued 'growing it' (at much personal financial sacrifice in the early stages), in order to provide our fellow brothers & sisters with high-quality products at a price that was reasonable/affordable.

Your suggesting that anyone would have to use 'herbdoc' as a source, when you know there are other products for substantially less (that are substantially higher in potency & quality) seems anything but genuinely altruistic.  (And for those wondering - this is definitely not a 'plug' or 'advertisement' for our Apothecary...far from it.   Right now we are processing more orders than is -almost- possible to manage).

You can grow a garden if necessary and get some wild foods to supplement your fruits and veggies. Growing a garden is a major stretch for those that are physically compromised, but gardening is extremely therapeutic :)

do not let these little things hold you back if you cannot after you get her to watch the videos and read the testimonies see it in a different light. It is your life after all.

Also see this 20 day protocol from Dr Christopher's heirs (Dr Christopher was schulze's teacher) for helping candida in 20 days

http://articles.herballegacy.com/natural-protocol-for-systemic-yeast-overgrow...

Yes, the "heirs" of Dr. Christopher (David, specifically) designed this "protocol"...that would be the same heirs that have kowtowed to the Powers That Be and altered Dr. Christopher's original healing formulas; the same heirs that switched to toxic, cheap imported herbs to increase profit; the same heirs that actually alter Dr. Christopher's words and leave them to read as "his"...and the same heirs that have ZERO clinical experience.  Perhaps you'd like to familiarize (re-familiarize) yourself with this: ~!~ Schulze GEM! How to choose a protocol/teacher/book MUST READ

It would take a small book to explain all the things that are wrong with that 'candida protocol' (but there's many reasons why it will yield immediate/temporary good results and likely not any type of lasting or true healing).  The most important being that candida are saprophytes ("An organism, especially a fungus or bacterium, that grows on and derives its nourishment from dead or decaying organic matter." ), and this protocol does virtually nothing to address the CAUSE (removing the build-up of dead/decaying organic matter).

Although we love our relatives, if they are not helping us heal with their negativity and disbelief, sometimes we have to not tell them what we are doing, definitely leave them kind of leave them in a kind way out of the loop, of course, but not always possible when it's a parent upon whom we are dependant (and wields control harmfully), and seek out those who are supportive definitely as the loved one might kill us indirectly by their lack of belief and support.  Kcirla has already expressed that's she's quite aware of all this (something you'd know if you'd review her posting history)

I do not know your age, and as a mom I would hate to advise something that might break a mother's heart but if you are really that ill and she is fighting you so much, you might just have to do something to get better and hope lately when you are well that you can connect again.  True sentiments, but (imo) explaining to someone what is 'wrong' with their scenario (that she's already stated she knows), without offering tangible/effective ways to overcome the situation, likely causes even more frustration.  She's already expressed she knows she needs to "do something".

A psychiatrist who is not really training in understanding nutrition and alternative health has little to offer but drugs and maybe talking. Agreed, but with very little "talking" these days (unless it's different in France than the US).  It's rare that an in-patient talks to the psychiatrist more than 15 minutes daily in the US...and that's about the average time for a typical out-patient visit, as well.

Kcircla has done a LOT of reading & research - she didn't choose to see a psychiatrist.

I realize everyone on CZ has the right to post whatever they want to post.  I also realize that we all need to hold ourselves (and each other) accountable for the knowledge we share and advice we give to those that are experiencing dis-ease.  I feel we especially need to make sure we don't repeat the errors of 'allopathia'...with the first and foremost being: FIRST, physician, do NO harm.

Unyquity

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