Re: Your certificate has nothing to do with Obama's at Conspiracy Forum

"Whatever the case may be in the city where you live, Obama and any other citizen of Hawaii CAN get a certified copy of their original vault certificate."

Why even bother when the State of Hawaii has verified Obama's birth certificate to be genuine?

State declares Obama birth certificate genuine

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HONOLULU (AP) State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov.

Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.

Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama's citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

"The computer generated COLB form that has been used as proof of Obama's citizenship does nothing to prove where he was actually born, as a genuine original long copy birth certificate would do."

That's a lie. Here's Obama's birth certificate and it does show where he was born:

My computer generated birth certificate doesn't say where I was born either - except for the city - just like Obama's.

"So, once again, why has he simply not done so as opposed to go to extraordinary lengths and spend millions on attorney fees to make sure that his birth certificate, school and other records remain hidden from public view? Transparency my arse!

People can blather on about this or that and attack the messenger instead of the message all they want, but thus far I have not seen anyone provide a plausible and legitimate explanation for why Obama has not simply provided a certified copy of his original vault copy birth certificate.

Do you want to take a shot at it, or would you rather continue to attack the messenger(s), use your own birth certificate as a irrelevant smokescreen, play the race card and conveniently overlook such items as Obama's other hidden records, his own grandmother's statement and the statements of Kenyan officials?"

My own birth certificate as an "irrelevant smoke screen?" It's identical in nature to Obama's. Where's the smoke screen? During my career I spent time doing some hiring of people and my government contract employer would not accept an original "long copy" of a birth certificate because the FBI wouldn't either. If we wanted to hire a person they had to go get the certified copy so that we could run an FBI (as in J. Edgar Hoover era) check on them.

I've been through the birth certificate process for security clearances and I've been on the hiring end. Obama's long-form wouldn't get him hired at my company, but his certificate of live-birth would - and it DOES show where he was born in spite of your false claim that it doesn't.

Obama's grandmother and Kenyan officials can say anything they want to - for reasons of national pride, but they can't produce a birth certificate to support their claims.