Date:   4/19/2010 10:39:23 AM ( 15 y ago)
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hi hv, I've become increasingly interested in the frugivore diet for it's supposed history in being the primary diet for prehistoric man in our natural habitat (tropics), it's relatively fast-moving action through our digestive system, and the amount of healthy water such food contains. when I say frugivore however I don't mean purely fruitarian but rather one containing tender leafy vegetables, fruits from vegetables, and fruits in all its subclasses such as berries, however minimizing citrus fruits and pineapple due to the stripping action on the teeth, minimizing nuts, seeds, and fatty fruits like avocado, and minimizing hard to masticate or hard to digest vegetables.

Primarily my staple foods would be:

burro bananas
lettuce
celery
cucumber
tomato
orange or red bell peppers
miscellaneous fruits and vegetables like strawberries, etc

from what I can tell this type of diet will provide enough fiber, water, and nutrition to live well. what I don't know for sure though is if I would be getting everything I need. While you have propogated eating a variety is key I can't help but look at animals in nature and see many of them are specialized herbivores, carnivores, frugivores, as well as omnivores. I can't believe that we are omnivores, however, just because we can eat meat, many domestic animals have also perverted their ways to eating foods not in their niche such as dogs eating dogfood, or domestic chimps eating meat, or salmon grown on that toxic feed you always speak of, or chickens grown with hormones, it is apparent to me that just because an animal can live off something doesn't make it right, and since we have no talons, beaks, or fangs I don't believe we were adapted to eat meat at all except perhaps as a chimps do for social reasons, but not optimal dietary reasons.

To further emphasize this for others, imagine being a prehistoric human before tools allowed us to pervert natures way that our bodies had adapted to for so many years. Our teeth aren't much for gripping onto some furry animal and ripping out it's meat, neither are our fingers with relatively unsharp nails good at digging into furry animals for meat, or even just animals themselves. We have strong anti-killing instincts, for instance try killing an animal with your bare hands, not that in prehistoric nature you could ever get your hands on one, except one that died naturally, occasionally, or remnants of a carnivores kill left over, however I challenge you to go the highway and eat some old roadkill and see how long the scavenger-meat-eating-idea holds true for you. Furthermore our digestive system tends to putrefy meat unless aiding with tons of fiber or flushing water in order to break it down, and if rushed out not much is absorbed any way. Our intestinal lengths also match frugivores more closely than carnivores or omnivores, and our stomach acid levels with the presence of food in them also is in ratio to frugivores not carnivores or omnivores, which have pH of 1 in the stomach when food is present, lions for example being able to readily digest a human hand bitten off and eaten whole, while a human has a natural pH of 4 to 5 in the same situation, and a rabbits paw would certainly not do our stomachs much good as pepsin is also excreted in lower amounts than in carnivores/omnivores. The most fundamental thing to remember however is that a spear or a rifle making meat readily available to us, and fire making it more palatable and available to the body, does not make it an ideal or natural food, it only allows us to move away from our environmental niche even further, as all unnatural foods do and the reason for which they were introduced into our diet thousands of years ago.

I also have started to believe we weren't meant to drink as much water as we do these days, but rather get it from the fruits and vegetables we eat as they contain so much healthy water, and our noses would be in the way of getting down on all fours and drinking out of a water basin. As our ancient ancestors were tree dwellers, we must have derived most of our food and water from the fruits growing on the trees. Any way, despite all this speculation, the main problem is the nutrition deficiency in supermarket fruits today, laden with pesticides, and picked unripe and hard to time so as not to starve to eat when ripe that scares me. Also it isn't as practical for colder climates, as it isn't as freshly available, and the body would be under constant thermal stresses from eating a low calorie fruit diet and struggle to keep warm. For this I am going to try merino wool baselayer clothing, imitating a fur covering seen in animals to withstand the cold. Other concerns that arise are omega 3 fatty acids, EPA/DHA, which I'm not very familiar with, however ancient humans in the tropics must have gotten by somehow, do you have any ideas what their sources for these things might have been? Also, do you know of any reliable sources of food composition data that would show me the differences in fruit nutrient composition?

 

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