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Examining Osho and States of Consiousness by InnerCalm ..... Belief Systems Debate Forum

Date:   3/12/2010 10:26:12 PM ( 14 y ago)
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Not exacly a person who had any degree of mastery over life. It is noted that he was a drug addict. All his concepts that he shared with his devotees were borrowed form other sources. For a guy who proclaimed he was not interested in being a guru his actions told a very different story, including numerous reports of his sexual encounters of those he prayed upon.

His message, as so many victim conscious parading as spiritual masters, was to escape reality, escape suffering by "quieting the mind." There are other ways to obtain mastery and this is not it. This is a way to cash out and sit on a shelf with your consciousness. This is where the ego is seen as something to transcend because it is the seat of suffering. Not true. The ego is what gives you your sense of self. Incoherence with information in the mind and between other minds is where suffering happens. (friction) Yes you can cash out so you don't face balancing the information or you can take it deeper with an understanding beyond that of Osho and other spiritual con men.

Before anyone that may be fixated on this cult leader tries to lessen what I am saying by suggesting I must not have experienced the bliss states promised by this particular "guru," I will stop you out of the gate. I have experienced connection (ego loss) many times and under different circumstances each time. Usually, when I least expect it. My idea about this is it is just one of many states that can be experienced and is not some end point by any means. As long as we keep ourselves trapped in this type of thinking of separation (reaching for goals of this or that in ultimate states) we will remain powerless (not tapping infinite potential in its fullest sense).

In other words these kinds of notions to chase, and methodologies to play in are just that. States to experience with no other promise than a particular state to experience.

I have observed the observer observing the observer to several degrees (holographic and fractal nature of reality). There is no end to these vantage points and states. To suggest there is one state to reach is like all other religions that use the carrot before the horse paradigm to draw you in to feed. Osho was a feeder with a big appetite who had little effect over the harmony of his own life. The signs are there.

I feel sorry for this man and those who follow him. Running from life and his(their) own suffering instead of healing/balancing was his answer. Certainly not an answer I share nor endorse.


"Rajneesh's health collapsed in his early thirties. He suffered from what Europeans call myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME) or what Americans call Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS). His classic symptoms included the obvious fatigue, extreme sensitivity to smells and chemicals (now called "multiple chemical sensitivity"), allergies, recurrent low grade fevers, photophobia, and orthostatic intolerance (neurally mediated hypotension). Rajneesh also had Type II diabetes, asthma, and severe back pain.

Rajneesh was constantly sick and frail from the time I first met him in 1970 until his death in 1990. He could not stand on his feet for long periods of time without becoming lightheaded because he suffered damage to his autonomic nervous system which controls blood pressure. This neurally mediated hypotension (low blood pressure while standing) causes chronic fatigue and can also lower IQ due to a lack of sufficient blood and oxygen being pumped to the brain (brain hypoxia). When he was most ill he would complain of becoming lightheaded as soon as he stood up. He thought he was getting a different cold or flu every week. In reality he suffered from a singular chronic illness with flu like symptoms that can last for decades.

In his last years Rajneesh used prescription drugs, mainly Valium (diazepam), as an analgesic for his aches and pains. He took the maximum recommended dose of 60 milligrams per day. He also inhaled nitrous oxide (N2O) mixed with pure oxygen (O2) which helped his asthma and brain hypoxia, but which did nothing for the quality of his judgment. Naive about the powerful effects of Western medications and overconfident about his own ability to fight off their potentially negative effects, Rajneesh succumbed to addiction. His downfall and humiliation followed swiftly.

Rajneesh was a physically ill man who became mentally corrupt. His drug addiction was a problem of his own making, not a government conspiracy. Rajneesh died in 1990, with heart failure listed as the official cause of death. It is probable that the physical decline Rajneesh experienced during his incarceration in American jails was due to a combination of withdrawal symptoms from Valium and an aggravation of his ME/CFS due to stress and exposure to allergens. "


http://rajneesh.info/


Not exactly a master (unless manipulating weak minded people counts).
 

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