Date:   2/17/2010 3:30:35 AM ( 14 y ago)
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although this more directed to Uny I do welcome anyones reply/suggestions..Uny here :)  Okee-dokee gal, here it comes   ...what I'm going to try to do is solidly "identify" the puzzle pieces that I see (and add information to them), so that you can see how they look and decide which ones to keep & use (and which ones to trash, if I'm incorrect).   Remember, identifying is not being judgmental or trying to 'beat you up'...I'm just doing my best to help.   This should help you decide what you need to be doing to heal yourself :)

ok I need to know where to start here..I know I have parasites but do I do the 30 day colon cleanse first then do the parasite cleanse ..do I do a few liver flushes first too?
I dont know if I can even tolerate the unyworm yet so my thinking is premature here..  It's sounds like (from reading your recent posts) you've allowed yourself to fall back into a fairly "reactive state" again (and likely lost most of the headway & momentum you had going before), and since there's a lot of herbs in the parasite blend - I agree, thinking about taking it might be premature.  As I recall, you were getting out flukes with your liver flushes and/or CEs.  And then you were taking garlic & cayenne.  

Of course, always the IF#2 (and IF#1 if you need it) to 'sop up' toxins and keep a healthy flow going (along with cleansing away the junk).  I see no reason why you couldn't start doing full liver flushes every 1-2 weeks right now, as long as you do the typical 'liver prepping' the week before the flush (CE's, castor oil packs, foot reflexology and the 5-day cleanse is always fantastic).

Liver flushes are not optional.    You've known for around 5 years that you have serious liver compromise and congestion; you lost your gallbladder over it (I know, you were dealing with the benzo issue and your insurance ran out and you thought you were too scared & 'reactive' to save it)...but the fact remains, all evidence (both from your posts, physicians and some kind of ND you saw) indicates your liver is FULL of it.  That means (just like many people on CZ) that you need to start, and be consistent with a series of liver flushes and any other 'liver care' you can do.  How many?  If you only do flushes, I'd guess it'd take a minimum of 40-50.  If you stop ingesting toxins, unhealthy foods, (alcohol?), otcs, crappy/toxic supplements (you know right? eat like a truly normal person would have eaten before 'they' brainwashed us all & trashed the planet/foods), and you stay consistently on track (other than a minor mishap every now & then), AND do other good liver work and healing protocols...then it will take FAR less flushes.   Don't you dare frown at me!! :::grin:::  It's a BLESSING that we can totally trash our bodies and embalm/pickle our livers for decades, and that we even have a CHANCE of not dying in our forties of cancer.  Remember, many MDs and ALL healers that know anything KNOW what?  That they NEVER see cancer unless the liver is compromised...NEVER.  And you know your liver has been compromised for how many years?  Right.  This is serious stuff.

anyways I need a program to do that way I can get on the right track here .
So Uny what do I do first??  Reply is below

and do I need to do a juice fast while doing colon cleanse with IF#1 and #2 or can I eat a normal clean diet??? or raw?? which I know that juicing would be best ..If you know that juicing would be best, then...???   Here's the bottom line - when we juice/juice fast, it's like a high nutrition IV...all the vital nutrients in their purest possible form are in the juice, and it assimilates easily and quickly.  When we eat, it takes 60-65% of the total energy our body has in any given day to separate the nutrients from the pulp/fiber of the food and assimilate them.  The pulp/fiber is worthless (other than to keep the intestinal tract clean and operating) - it's what comes out as poop. 

So, the question is:  Do you want 65% of your body's energy to be used healing you with super-charged nutrition/fuel from the juice?  Or do you want 65% of your body's energy to be used making poop (why having to struggle to get the fuel it needs to heal itself)?

The next question: Which way do you think will be faster and more effective?

ok and how bout the garlic? would that kill all the parasites or should I even try the Unyworm?I know I need to add cayenne too..I got the tincture and the powder now.  Yes, garlic & cayenne powder for the flukes and intestinal critters - cayenne tincture is best for 'reactions'.  If you wanna try the Unyworm to see if you're reactive (and it turns out you are), then you can always keep it for when you're not reactive.

also a problem I ran into before was nosebleed from possible blood being too thin or whatever the cause was I want to prevent it from happening this time.. I remember you reporting ONE nosebleed, and you assuming it was because your blood was too thin (from the garlic and/or the ginger). 

Option A or B: 

A) Liver flukes biting into the flesh of your liver, crapping out toxins that make you reactiving while sucking blood out of your liver (and making big holes in it) - and making it virtually impossible to successfully flush and heal your liver.  

B) Doing whatever it takes to get them out (which includes learning enough to get OVER the fear issues that seem to be holding you back).

What's the most common cause of nosebleeds?  Weak blood vessels near the surface and blood that won't clot.  What's the most common cause of blood not clotting?  Lack of Vitamin K (the dark green leafy greens).  And what organ is responsible for making the various 'clotting factors' from the nutrients?  YES!  Your LIVER.  
since I really cant jump on the wagon with the superfood I need to try to get more greens into me either by juicing or eating salads to help with clotting exactly..which I dont think I did then at all or at least not enough..exactly.
I really want this to work out for the good this time and be able to do what it takes for the time it takes..Good for you!  Because the longer you put it off, the harder and more stressful it will be to heal (and the worse you'll become while not doing it).  Remeber, this IS going to take (at the very least) a few months of being consistent and dedicated...and being healthy isn't something we do a few months a year...it's dealing with the peer-pressure and changing our eating & habits back to what is healthy and normal.  I'm pretty sure I know you well enough to know that you would NOT let anyone threaten your life (no matter who they were).  When people pressure you to do unhealthy things (or you pressure yourself), and your body is already sick...that IS a threat to your life.  Right? Right!
I have a little castor oil left but not much..can I wash the flannel peice? or do I even need to?? the thought of it sitting there so long kinda irks me ..me thinks its dirty and full of crud from my yucky liver
anyways .Yes, you can wash the cloth if it's yukky, but you might have to wash it several times to get the old oil out.  once I get what I need to get started which will probably be by the end of the week.I plan on starting the cleanse Monday and carrying it through as long as I can possibly stand it this time .

The underlined sentence is likely one of your BIGGEST pitfalls.  "I'll do it as long as I possibly can" is clearly saying "I am sure there may come a time when I can't do this and I'll have to stop"...which is setting yourself up to fail.  Add up all the money that's been spent in the last few years on things for your husband and your children...that they/you could have lived without.  We're talking about your LIFE, Nola, not some cute lil' hobby. 

  It's just like Yoda said to Luke in Star Wars, " There is NO 'try'...either 'do', or 'do not'. "

.I have ordered some more SA wilsons coffee ..need to go to the health store to get some more castor oil and order some more IF#1 and 2 and then get started and anything else you thinks I may need . Only other things I can think of are the Unyworm (if you wanna try it), possibly Hawthorn tincture to strengthen your heart; the Liver tincture (which is part of the 5-day liver cleanse, or can be used alone as "bitters"...just put a few drops on your tongue every time you walk past the bottle).  In fact, that's something Miss H and I have been doing and we both feel it's VERY beneficial...and it's unlikely 3-5 drops won't cause a reaction, so I'm recommending that.  And be sure you have enough activated charcoal to take 'extra' and for doing 'activated charcoal poultices' over your liver.

I have literally wasted this day by sleeping ..I was so darned tired..have not had any caffeine today either yet but me is thinking I am gonna have to drink a cup to get my wifely duties done round here this evening and I do mean yerba mate tea too.. Progress is a process - do your best to make healthy choices.  Yerba mate is better than coffee.  I layed down on the couch last night to watch a movie we had put in oh round 9 oclock and thats the last I remembered till 5:30 this morning then got up and went to bed with the smell of the new couch bout catching my breath...eeewww... outgasing is bad! anyways slept till 11 got up fell back asleep round 1 and slept till 4 and been trying to get going ever since..'Sounds to me like your body is seriously compromised - it's working very hard and needs the rest (and everything you can do to help it out).  Coffee enemas and that activated charcoal poultice on your liver will go a LONG way to helping your body and liver!!  Also....STAY OFF AND AWAY FROM THAT COUCH!!!  The last thing your liver needs right now is you breathing in all kinds of toxic fumes!!!  (I've read many a story of compromised folks getting just one new piece of furniture in a room where they are all the time, and it making them REALLY sick).  So check back in your mind...did you start getting worse after you got it?   I am so not productive today at all.. my hand is still numb and I am unable to fully straighten out my last 2 fingers now..I feel my mobility slowly slipping away and doing basic chores now are getting harder and harder it seems..
I am thinking bout going to the doctor to get a diagnosis just to see what is going on omg,  like my m-i-l always said, "you'll do it till you don't"  :::big sigh for you:::..whether it is in my elbow/wrist/neck or whatever.since I have no insurance I am reluctant at this time and wanna find something else natural that would work for me What will work for you is doing as much of the IP as you can do. .I did have a compound fracture in that arm when I was a kid and also had a softball hit right about wrist area last year too so it maybe caused from that but not sure..tried wrapping it in an ace bandage last night and that seemed to help some . Have you tried castor oil?  Or Deep Tissue Repair Oil? or BF&C oil? (I think you got some of those once for your daughter?)  The castor oil & Deep Tissue would be the things that would give the fastest relief.

Hubbys eye is still the same and is not getting worse at this time so thank God for that..he is still struggling with his beer devil.down to 3 days a week Good for him!!..me? I am doing good .I wanna get better ..he drank beer while watching nascar yesterday and he wanted me to drink with him but I didnt !guess he thought since it was valentines day that I should ...ugh! its a struggle to live with someone who drinks .its creates a weakness that I cannot always overcome .. (sigh).You CAN overcome it (yes, it's tough, but you CAN).  You can because you have to!  I am always being tested it seems and sometimes I give in when at my weakest .I just keep praying about it and hoping things will get better and that I will have the willpower to say no to the things that will harm me ..I understand, I really do.  But you can NOT have alcohol, Nola...it really is a life-threatening poison for you.  You're far too compromised to gamble that gamble.  You have children that need you (and someday you'll have all those precious grandbabies to hold & love).  Say no for them if you can't say no for yourself.  And tell that man that you have LIVER DISEASE (the doctors told you that, right?)...and that you do NOT want him drinking in front of you or tempting you any more!!   He can take that new couch, his beer and the tv out to the garage!

hey thanks for the info.. had no idea that caffeine was worse than other drugs...lol... I should be dead before now !.. I used to pop 4 200mg vivarins at a time and wash it down with a mtn dew... or even worse take the ephedrine pills and chase em down with alcohol for the ultimate good feeling ... I would go through a bottle of 30 in a few days ..thats insane!! no wonder my body got so screwed up huh? along with eating very little and junk at that I got down to 130 pounds on my 5 ft 10inch frame and looked like a bone!  You did all that, and now you're always talking like you're afraid of "natural healing"?!  You're a nut (just one of the reasons I love you so much :)  I've done stupid things like that too...and I've paid a price or two myself.  Remember what Dr. Schulze says...something like: if only people would as hard at making themselves well as they did at making themselves sick!  

 you are right on needing a crutch to get through cause I sure do.. I want to be able to swap these vitamins I am taking for something better for me.. I got  the women to women program and it has literally taken away my anxiety as long as I take em 2x day ...thats why I am able to tolerate caffeine now ya see. those vitamins have made me feel more normal than I have in a long time and they are my biggest crutch right now .. but I dont know what is in em that does that for me but I am gonna take em till I find something else that works for me..they are posed to be pure but I dunno.. You dunno if they're pure, but you're taking them?  lovely.  Get me a link so we can check it out and make sure you're not taking something that's making you worse.  Yeah, benzos took away your anxiety too, and made you feel 'better'

 sometimes I think I have chronic fatigue which falls back down to parasite/liver cleanse cause they think its actually caused by a virus now!  All disease has the same cause and the same cure.  Focus your energy & mind on doing what it takes to heal yourself...that has worked for tens of thousands of other people that were worse than you (but not worse than you're going to be, if you don't get yourself together!)  And that's no joke.

its taking me a while to type this cause I have to get up and take a break cause of my hand.. I am making me some white willow bark tea for inflammation to see what happens..hope I can tolerate it so wish me luck..

my EFT tapping phrase is : even though I am a stubborn ass I will do what it takes to fully and completely heal myself....   HAH! hows that one ?? ;) winks 'Sounds like one of mine! :::wink:::

 I have already done it once today ..lol..believe it or not..for 5 minutes though.

well thats one anyways.. gotta think of some more though

 I get it with the caffeine now ...thanks You're welcome :)

I now know that not everything put on this earth is for ingesting exactly!

that was a light bulb moment for me ..and I know that I need to cleanse more this year until I am better..need to get back into the once daily CE's too.  If I were feeling like you are saying you're feeling, I'd not be waiting for the S.A. Wilsons before I started.  I'd be doing at least one CE daily with whatever organic coffee I could get my hands on "today".

 and yeah I am always looking for other solutions or more solutions...lol ..ya caught me...ya caught the tater.....  :) Caught the tater? LOLOL, I've never heard that one!!!

but I will be successful ! YAY!  In the words of Jean Luc Picard (Star Trek)...MAKE IT SO!!!!!

Healthiest of blessings,

Unyquity

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