Date:   2/11/2010 3:10:55 AM ( 15 y ago)
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This is not really a debate forum which is my point.

If you want some guides then ask. But to come here and flatly say it doesn't work like your stating a universal fact...ah no. It works for many. There are some distinctions though.

Perhaps you are over complicating it. Many of the marketed versions tend to do just that. If you have not read any of Neville Goddard then do yourself a favor give that a go and ignore all the other stuff. It comes down to a few things. Carrier wave (emotion) no faking that btw......Information carried (intent) and trance state (just prior to and leading into sleep as you drop down into theta. Believe me if you get the mix you will get amazing results. This is similar to how REAL (not the fakey new age marketing ones)shamans access various reality bands and it is how some perform miracles too. It's the same territory beyond the collective story where you can literally jump realities. I am speaking from experience, not theory.

If you are still blocked then one must go to the subconscious mind and look for the limiters. I can tell you emphatically stating it doesn't work over and over isn't exactly giving you open road.

Also perhaps a shift from attraction as a concept "out there" to a tuning in from in there may be what you need. Play with it. make it your won.


As far as the inner calm slam, what should I be in your minds' eye? Is there some spiritual template you measure your expectations too? What's your adventure... manifesting or cave chanting? Do you want to play in reality with energy/information...or sidestep that and do nothing at all like some in this forum while claiming all that is just an ego trip (cop out). Choices.

"So then if desires lead to all misery then the desire to be happy causes misery? Must I be content being an Untouchable or groveling at the feet of tyrants? Must I have no desire to live in equality with all people? Or desire peace? Even dogs want to eat."

I never said that and i absolutely do not believe that at all. It is a belief system and a terrible one. Some people have been conditioned to think that mind creates suffering. I would ask them, why did they come here then?
This is a stage. We play here with energy/information and create form a field of infinite potential. if you allow yourself to be influenced in these regards by taking on templates (belief systems) you create reality through a particular cookie cutter and there are many to choose from.

if you want to take the limiters off and give yourself some freedom I would be glad to brainstorm some possibilities. it may be better to do that on PM so there is no "noise" to deal with.

Ask yourself what you are willing to give up? Often it is what we are holding onto that is in direct conflict with what we say we want. One needs to do a coherency check and make sure all is in alignment.

Let me know if you want to explore but if so you will need to come at it with innocence and a childlike playful attitude. Resistance will create persistence of what you don't want.



 

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