Date:   1/23/2010 12:51:27 AM ( 14 y ago)
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>>I have discussed it a few times. Not sure if all of them were one these boards. Mainly discussing not overdoing the iodine, using herbs to suppress thyroid function such as bugleweed, Melissa (lemon balm) and prunella,

This statement is unclear. You refer to using herbs, etc. to suppress thyroid function directly following the Iodine reference. Are you suggesting some benefit to suppressing thyroid function (as one might for hyper-T) or the opposite?

>>and focusing on the adrenals for autoimmune hyperthyroidism (Grave's disease).

Article suggests a variety of causes. Do you suggest that supporting adrenals will address those such as environmental, genetic, etc.?

http://www.thyroidmanager.org/Chapter10/10__causes.htm


CAUSES OF GRAVES' DISEASE

Since Graves' disease is accepted as a disease syndrome induced by autoimmunity to the thyroid, the question of cause resolves into why autoimmunity to the thyroid is present. It is not clear that any other "cause" of Graves' disease is present, other than disordered immunity. There is, for example, no evidence that the thyroid or its protein antigens are initially abnormal 50. Contemporary understanding is that the process involves a variety of factors allowing self-reactivity to occur. (Table 10-2) While our immune system is designed to prevent self-reactivity, to some extent, very low levels of self-reactity are normally present 2. Presumably genetic and environmental factors interact to augment this immunity, from a low and physiologically unimportant level, to a degree that causes a disease state. Several factors can be identified with some certainty, and others have been suggested and will be noted. It always remains possible, when a specific individual cause is not known, that ultimately one single cause of Graves' disease will be discovered. Current ideas suggest this is not the case.


>>Excessive Iodine intake can put the thyroid in to overdrive.

Tell me about it.

>>This is why I had a fit earlier when a poster was recommending 50mg daily since the body uses Iodine in micrograms:

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Uh-oh. Challenging the V. Gotta' agree with my man here. It's your forum, and I'm not interested in becoming adversarial - but I do not feel, from my own experience that (FOR SOME) 50mg is over the top. Remember, so much more is involved in supplementing at that level (the so-called "companion nutrients", etc.) - and I won't go into detail because, while unfortunate, I know you are not interested.

My health improved dramatically at around 50 mg (Lugols solution), along with Selenium, C, the CN's. It was when I increased to 400-500 mg (for no reason aside from the thrill of improved health, mental and physical function) and dropped the SeMc, stopped eating my Brazil nuts, etc. that I became hyper-T. And still no real proof it was the iodine/dide.

Even Battie once wrote about the "diminishing return" in iodine supplementing. These guys "get it". If you followed their forum every day (which I would never expect, nor should) you would discover that there is no "pushing" of any certain quantity. The interest of the forum owners is that of providing, compiling, and attracting from others information related to the benefits of iodine, the hazards and history of bromide, fluoride, etc. One of this (and other) countries greatest crimes against humanity.

Okay - now a question. Very important to me. *Your opinion* (and let's leave the adrenal support preference on the side for a minute) - do you believe adding iodine to the diet, however one should choose to do so (BWH, Lugols, SSKI , Magnascent, brazil nuts...), is of greater therapeutic value in cases of hyper-T or hypo-T? I understand the risks of over-supplementation, so no need to reiterate.
 

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