Date:   12/6/2009 12:53:31 PM ( 15 y ago)
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"How is infinite potential a 'religion.""
Let's see. Religion is a system of human thought which usually includes beliefs and/or practices that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power, deity, deities, or ultimate truth. Religion is commonly identified by the practitioner's prayer, ritual, meditation, music and/or art, among other things. It may focus on specific supernatural, metaphysical, and moral claims about reality (the cosmos and human nature) which may yield a set of religious laws, ethics, and/or a particular lifestyle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
What part of that leaves out your religion?

I would also have to ask how your religion/cult, which is what it is, is any different than Christianity, when Jesus said we all have infinate potential too? Did you really study or try to manifest truth enough to really learn what Christianity and all religions are about and the problem in ALL of them? Man is ALWAYS thrown into the mix. Are you still unable to tell the difference?

"When, unlike your"religion:" it allows all religions to exist and more."
And "more" would include belittling and condemning another religions? I understand now. Condemnation from you is some how different? And your religion allows condemnation of others who are one with you? I don't see the difference.

"You are missing the bigger picture."
"*Holds up a polished mirror.*"

"I used to too, when I was in the christian cult of deception."
Some how you've changed? Different cult, different name, same self deception.

"Infinite potential isn't even a philosophy. Its an observation."
An observation changes nothing unless you change because of it. I see a car coming, oops I didn't move out of the way. So far I see no difference in anything you or the count have said between any other "cult", and those you condemn.

"Christianity on the other hand has historically left a wide trail of it's lack of moralaity."
I would say peoples ignorance has created far far more problems, only one of which is morality. But I know, you have to blame another group of people for the problem. That's far easier than looking into the "polished mirror".

All I've seen in anything you or the count have said is empty claims in the atempt to lift yourselves up at the expense of someone else. That's not "free", that's not more "advanced", and it's certainly no belif system, (which is what you follow) that I would claim to belong to or want to be involved in.

Someone who has actually attained any of the qualities you and the count claim would smile at every person no matter how far down the path the person is, and give them respect, because they’re on their chosen path. There would be no claims to being free without allowing others to be free too. I know these people haven’t learned one of the basic fundamentals of being free; allowing others to be free. In fact these people still haven’t learned what freedom actually is. They’re still imprisoned by their ego and pride and try to hide the fact by belittling others under the illusion that it lifts them up in some way. These people are still imprisoned by their old “belief system" they claim to be free from or they would have forgotten about it, quit dragging it around like an anchor and considered it a past dream. These people would offer a hand to others instead of a foot on top of the head.

Spiritually free people are openly gentle, kind hearted, genuine, their minds free of hypocrisy and falsity in speech and nature. They find joy in everything. They do not sit in judgment of others, but rejoice in every situation and every way of living they see. And they are happier to see people on many different paths than everyone walking the same path. They find joy and the fragrance of a rose in everything. This is true not only for “good things”; even when they see something that is “clearly wrong” they do not pass judgment, but rather feel a spiritual and genuine compassion for the person, and say with perfect humility, "Today it is your turn; tomorrow it will be mine”. They do not waste their time judging, because they know they’ll be judged in return. A free person doesn’t see high or low or rank or reward or right or wrong in regard to someone else’s path. A free person has no reason to condemn, belittle or ridicule others. Free people do not walk grimly through life. A person who is free, harms no others with word or action. They go their way without relying on others and do not pride themselves in walking alone. They retain compassion for others. While they do not follow the crowd they won't complain about those who do.

These are the works of those who are “more aware”, “spiritually free”, and more “advanced”. Who ever learns they are far away from such behavior, let them neither be deluded nor fool themselves, but let them know with all certainty that they walk in a self made illusion and prison.

Someone who is spiritually “free” would stop worrying about the fact that people are calling a Christmas tree a holy tree. They would remember the cause for all trees and celebrate with them. They would not condemn those who celebrate Christ’s birthday on a pagan holiday. They would simply smile and celebrate their truth too. It's a time for celebration so why not celebrate too? Instead of writing objections about Christians, they could write letters of love and hope to those in nursing homes who don’t have a home or loved ones, and go see them and give them a hug. They would smile at everyone, because one of those people could be thinking about taking their life because they’re alone, unloved, downtroden and condemned. If you truly want to make a statement about your spiritual freedom, you could buy something for a Christian during Christmas and give it to them, or at least give money to the Salvation Army so they can deliver it for you. You’re spiritually free, and what better way to show it than in the midst of what you "believe is slavery". The best way to make a statement about your spiritual freedom is simply to act like it. Let people know by your actions that you are free and so are they.

If humanity has truly advanced, then we need to act like it, instead of doing the same thing we did before and simply claiming to be advanced. Anything less is an empty statement to yourself and the world. And this is true for all religions/beliefs or "anti-religions" or "anti-beliefs". The only difference in any of it is weather the truth gets manifasted. Nothing else matters.

Being spiritually anything cannot be proven by words and shows such claims are false. It’s something inside the person that can be only be proven, made true or shown by outward actions. Everything else is emptiness and is where the illusion exists.

Like I said before, TPTB are living the illusion. So we need to live the truth and the illusion dissapears automatically. Nothing more needs to be done. It's as simple as that. And if only 5% of the population did this imagine what the world would be. The two fleas arguing over who owns the dog needs to end right here or the illusion continues. Question is, are we as focused on the goal as they are? Time will tell.
 

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