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Normally, I wouldn’t tie up this much space in a post, but this topic is so very important for everyone,that it should be read and understood and widely disseminated. Pass along to family and friends.

Following is the transcript of a webinar on vaccines and as the title indicates, neutralizing the toxicity of vaccines. It was a pleasure to listen to this presentation as Dr. Levy presents easily, clearly and is comfortable delivering technical news to both professional and non-professional audiences.

The take home message is at the end in the Wrap-up section. Topic sections and the accompanying slides are indicated in bold and Dr. Levy’s elaboration of each talking point either introduces or follows the slide.

The liposomal forms of vitamin C and glutathione are available online. Some links are included under references.

Jackie

About Dr. Levy
Thomas E. Levy, MD JD, is a board certified cardiologist and has written six books on health-related issues including Curing the Incurable and Stop America's #1 Killer!. He is one of the leading vitamin C experts in the world and frequently lectures globally about the proper role of vitamin C in the treatment of a host of medical conditions and diseases to medical professionals.

Most of his work has centered on how to restore and/or maintain good health in the face of the many different forms of toxicity that all of us face, typically on a daily basis. He no longer has a clinical practice of medicine and cardiology. Rather, he limits himself to research and writing at this time. He is currently working on his seventh book, Death by Calcium: The Supplement that Kills.

Most of his work over the last ten years has centered on the importance of maintaining a healthy antioxidant status in the body. His work currently is focusing on the importance of liposomal technology as a way to optimally deliver vitamin C, glutathione, and other nutrients into the body orally, appearing to even surpass the bioavailability seen with the intravenous administration of these antioxidants.

All of the negative effects of modern vaccines are mediated by toxin-induced pro-oxidant mechanisms. Properly administered vitamin C can be expected to effectively eliminate vaccine toxicity and to stimulate antibody response to the vaccine, in the event that a given vaccine cannot be avoided in the first place.

Vitamin C and Forced Vaccination: Neutralizing Toxicity while Optimizing Response
Thomas E. Levy, M.D., J.D.

Examining the title
To a greater or lesser degree – some states greater, others, lesser – vaccination is not always an option. In public health terms, the Govt will often mandate. You’ll see as this talk goes on, that I don’t necessarily believe that vaccines have no value at al but I certainly do believe the evidence shows their value is quite limited, very over-blown and the negative aspects of vaccination continue to be underplayed.

But the approach of this talk is to be as pragmatic as possible because there are very practical ways …and we will discuss them…to – in my scientific opinion – virtually, completely eliminate any of the most profound, possibly negative actions….such as the autism, Guillain-Barre Syndrome – all these other things – that however frequently or infrequently occur – they are absolute catastrophes for child or adult or family of the affected vaccinated person.

Now – I thought it would be useful to first look at the formal definition of a vaccine just to get a perspective of where we start in reaching our own conclusions.

Being of the computer age, I decided to take answers.com definition… which says:

Slide:
Vaccine: Definition and Characteristics

This is the definition of a vaccine according to answers.com:

A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.

Already in the definition, we have some serious flaws and we’ll get to those in a moment.

So – what this standard definition lack and it’s really difficult for even the most ardent vaccine supporter to scientifically dispute any of these things I’m going to mention, although often times, emotion replaces scientific belief.

Vaccine Definition & Characteristics… What the standard definition lacks.

1. A vaccine CAN and DOES (and I might add HAS) caused severe infection in a small percentage of administrations….. sometimes not so small.

With the polio vaccine, at one point in time, the vaccine was causing more cases in the vaccinated population than those that weren’t vaccinated. Now they’ve made changes in the types of vaccines over the years, but you always need to remember that the party line of mainstream medicine is to always maintain “well, whatever mistakes we made in the past, there is no way that could happen again.” I would submit to you that, that would be far from the truth.

Now another thing, and this probably occurs vastly more frequently – at least these days – than causing the infection from what you are trying to protect is that

2. A vaccine CAN and DOES --- and if you use the right circumstances and enough vaccines at the same time, almost reliably will …. cause toxin-induced, permanent medical disabilities (damage). In some cases, the more dramatic ones can result in permanent medical disability.

3. The pathogens, or parts thereof, are toxic as well as being antigenic

It’s important to remember that the pathogens which are the bacteria, microbes or parts of them and not only antigenic, which is the word used to describe something that will cause antibody, which is basically the whole point of a vaccine is to try to stimulate the immune system with all or part of a microbe so that – should that microbe come back in its real, living form in a regular situation, then you’ll have made the antibodies to counter it.

4. The vaccine often has preservatives such as the highly toxic methylmercury-containing thimerosal (a substance 49% mercury by weight; much more toxic than inorganic forms of mercury)
Well, in addition to being antigenic, these antigens, these microbes are also toxic. This will become more apparent as to why this is important in a moment.

Another thing – and most people who would be inclined to listen to a talk like this are well-read enough to already to realize that many of the vaccines – even today – especially what’s known as the “multi-dose” vials so that several samplings don’t contaminate the vial for subsequent administrations – is that the preservative that to this day continues to be used in many vaccines is thimerosal. This is important because it’s not only 50% mercury by weight, but the TYPE of mercury – I know we’re not biochemists but it’s important to know the type of mercury that’s in there is called organic mercury...or methylmercury. Organic mercury, clinically, is phenomenally more toxic than inorganic mercury.

So, it’s important to know these things contain mercury in a fairly substantial amount and as fate would have it, it’s the type of mercury that’s vastly more toxic than many of the other forms of mercury we would encounter.

5. The Vaccine is often ineffective in inducing immunity to the pathogen.
The standard definition also lacks the point that the vaccine is often ineffective in inducing immunity to the pathogen. So many modern vaccines and of course pharmaceutical companies that produce them – they just feel or they just want the medical community to feel perhaps more accurately, that because we put part of the microbe out into circulation – and by definition there was a quick and massive and a fairly substantial production of antibody to that microbe or microbe part.

Well in point of fact, that’s just not the case and very often, when any type of immunity is induced, it is transient in nature.

Now we just talked a lot about the different toxic characteristics of vaccines, well now, it’s important because all of this will tie together with practical advice I’m going to try to impart to you in dealing with this is that you need to understand: Okay – vaccines are toxic… Now, let’s try to understand toxins.

Toxins: Characteristics
All toxins, no matter how different in chemical structure, exert their toxicity and negative effects in a biological system in the same manner.

Namely,
This manner is always that of a pro-oxidant; the theft or depletion of electrons is what ultimately causes very symptom or clinically toxic effect.

In other words, something that oxidizes anything else takes electrons away – it depletes electrons. For those of you who are not familiar with this, it may sound incredibly, and inaccurately simplistic to say this, but I can tell you that at least in over 100 different toxins that I’ve researched myself, I’ve found this to always be the case no matter how divergent in chemical structure the toxins are. So, toxicity is the theft or depletion of electrons. Simple… that’s it. So anything that does that has a toxic effect.

So we can then make the statement that all toxins deplete electrons as their sole (and along with other toxins) shared mechanism of causing disease and symptoms.

Okay - Then we can jump to the next important concept which is what antioxidants do. Antioxidants reduce something that is oxidized which means antioxidants bring in, donate and put back or replete electrons.

All antioxidants donate or replete electrons.

When the right antioxidant is physically approximated to an appropriately configured toxin, the toxin, and its toxic effects are neutralized. When the right antioxidant can be physically approximated to the molecules in toxin-damaged tissue, tissue repair and healing will occur.

Now with these two concepts in mind, then what’s left in order to have an optimal therapeutic effect in neutralizing a toxin, is physically, molecularly getting the right antioxidant properly approximated to the appropriate toxin. So it may sound silly but if the toxin is on one side of the room and the antioxidant on the other, it will not have any effect in terms of the body but if they get in the same tissue, same intracellular space and they can actually physically touch and interact with each other, the antioxidant will completely neutralize the toxin. Then not only do you get neutralization of the toxin, a very important point here is that in the same manner that an antioxidant can neutralize a toxin directly, the tissue damage caused by the toxin that is also oxidative in nature and if your antioxidant can get electrons into that damaged tissue soon enough, tissue repair and healing will occur rather than ongoing tissue damage and even tissue cellular death.

So now with those concepts in mind, I want to go over a few more general concepts about vaccines. I don’t’ think they are widely appreciated, but they are nevertheless quite true.

Vaccines: Considerations

As we mentioned earlier,
1. Vaccines often either fail in providing the intended immunity or they only offer a transient immunity
This is important in addition to not just having the immunity but think of the fact that it puts people in the mindset that if they had the vaccination, they are protected…and I can go and put myself at risk in the middle of an epidemic or a hospital and maybe take less precaution. So it’s very dangerous not only from the fact that it didn’t do its job but also from the fact that it leads the potential victim into thinking they are protected when they are not.

2. Vaccines can (and have) cause the very disease for which immunity is sought.
Incredibly tragic in and of its own right when you think of the supposed role of vaccines.

3. The total toxin load of vaccines can damage the immune system, causing any of a number of substantial, even debilitating disorders.

Very important concept. When you understand that it’s toxins that are causing the problems with vaccines or that whatever vaccine problems you have is due to toxins, everything in the toxin world is cumulative.

So a given person, a patient, a baby --they have a certain immune system strength. They have a certain amount of toxins that they’re dealing with on a daily basis already for which they need antioxidant support and when you start giving vaccines in large doses, frequent dosing, large, simultaneous dosing, you can overwhelm a borderline immune system that might have coped well with just one vaccine or one small-dose vaccine at a time.

4. Nearly all of the feared infectious diseases for which vaccines were later given had largely disappeared when the vaccines were introduced.

#4 is another point that’s quite interesting and is supported very well by the data, is -- for whatever reason – and there are many different reasons for the scientists that examined these issues but whether we understand the reasons or not per se, we should realize that nearly all of the feared infectious diseases in the early part of the century for which vaccines were later given had already largely disappeared when the vaccines were introduced. And so what happened here, well…unless you know that point, then you say…Wow, they started giving all the vaccines and the diseases disappeared and bim/bam/boom all of a sudden they have this reputation as completely taking out large epidemics of killer diseases such as polio.

5. Toxin Load
The total toxin load of vaccines appears to be one of the primary cause for learning and behavioral disorders of “unknown cause,” such as autism, dyslexia, hyperactivity and minimal brain dysfunction

Now, toxin load again is a big factor. How big is it? How many electrons? How much electrons are being depleted? The total toxin load of vaccines appears to be one of the primary causes of learning and behavioral disorders of unknown cause. Most prominently we hear about autism and you hear all the debate back and forth in fear mongers etc but in populations that don’t get vaccinated, this just doesn’t really appear. But it’s not only autism, it’s dyslexia, and you might consider the conditions outlined after autism as being certainly neurologic in nature but generally not as profound as clinically the same as autism, so a person or child that gets a moderate amount of toxin exposure in the vaccine and is susceptible might have minimal brain dysfunction and had that child gotten a much larger toxin load from many more vaccines or multiple injections, then he could have gone on to develop a full-blown syndrome of autism. So autism, dyslexia, hyperactivity, and minimal brain dysfunction.

Another thing that I haven’t seen looked at a lot is other than when I first researched this whole topic for an article I wrote quite a few years ago is

#6 vaccinations can implant latent or “slow viruses” that can manifest years later as degenerative diseases, typically neurological.

It’s a scary concept but that doesn’t keep it from being true.

Cognitive Ability
#7 Vaccines appear to have significantly decreased the cognitive abilities of several generations and have likely fueled the development of much criminal activity.

Now, some studies have looked at the generations that have been vaccinated over time – vaccinating huge patient populations – collectively putting large amounts of toxicity into bodies that are not up to the task for fully coping with them - it appears through cognitive testing SAT test ACT test – the whole ball of wax – that vaccines appear to have been a substantial player in significantly decreasing the cognitive abilities… aka: IQ -- of several generations and as you knock down the IQ, it also appears to have fueled the development of a substantial increase in criminal activity.

#8. In spite of the previous seven considerations, vaccinations are increasingly mandated by law, with parental objection, or even on religious grounds (although scientific grounds should be more than adequate) sometimes resulting in custody battles with the government for their children, cloaked under the guise of child abuse or the protection of the public health.

While every parent loves their kids, every parent is not a pit bull to fight to the death and they finally say, oh alright, vaccinate. It is horrible to be put in that situation but I know many out there are put in that situation so we are coming up now on some practical suggestions for dealing with such a horrible and inevitable thing that has to be faced.

First, I want to mention a few other things; a few little highlighted points that reinforce some of the previous points:

In 1992, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) admitted… they admitted in their own publications that the polio live virus vaccine had become the main cause of polio in the United States.

Just think of the scientific and emotional impact of a statement like that.

The CDC further asserted that every ‘non-imported’ case of polio in the United states from 1980 to 1989 was vaccine-induced.

(This means generating from itself in the United States).

And then along other lines which in many ways can be just as depressingly impressive as these other statements…

In 1984, 58% of all reported measles cases in American schoolchildren occurred in spite of the vaccination.

So well over half. So think of all the people that get vaccinated, risk the side effects – and believe me, the vaccination related to measles is certainly generous with its side effects. All that risk was taken for something that couldn’t even protect close to a majority of the individuals that received that vaccination.

So, we’ve talked about toxins, we’ve talked about the fact that virtually all the negative effects of the vaccine or really just about any circumstances of disease is generated by pro-oxidative mechanisms.

Vaccines and Toxicity
Toxicity is cumulative. Sometimes it can by synergistic…if you have different toxins that are tremendously toxic in and of their own right, when taken together – one toxin and another toxin doesn’t equal two toxins it equals the toxicity of four, five or six or seven. Basically, when something has already beaten down by one toxin, an additional toxin takes advantage much more. So when looking at the cumulative toxicity in a vaccine, we need to consider:

Vaccines and Toxicity
Vaccines reliably exert a substantial, cumulative toxicity:

1. Toxicity of the antigen of the microbe or microbe parts whatever part they are using… in addition to being antigenic, and causing an immune response, it is also toxic.

2. Toxicity of the vaccine preservative (thimerosal) – the highly potent, organic mercury

3. This is a really big one and one so easily avoidable yet is difficult to get pediatricians and mainstream people to give it any consideration at all no matter how logical it is and that is..

Toxicity of increased numbers of vaccines (numerous at one time)
How logical or stand to reason is it that you can take a small jab in your face and not get knocked out but if Mike Tyson hits you with an iron sledgehammer, you are going down for the count… And it’s all a matter of how much you get at one time.

One very astute member of the scientific community I won’t mention his name in case he didn’t want to be mentioned, but he is a very solid researcher and became interested in autism and in mercury and he was able to show that the number of vaccines given to children these days, if you look at the volume the actual volume of vaccine being given per body weight in an infant or a very small baby or child, it would be the equivalent of giving pounds of that vaccine to an adult. I mean, common sense has to come in somewhere along the line. You don’t have to do it all at once - Lord knows that when you understand everything that I’m going to talk about you probably don’t need to do it at all but you definitely don’t need to do it all at once.

As we see in #4…most of the time, you get a standard dose. Well, that standard dose might do well on a 70 pound child but it’s an overwhelming toxic challenge for a 10 pound baby.

4. Toxicity of increased volume of vaccine (standard dose; no significant allowance for body mass of recipient; 10 lbs vs 30 lbs vs 50 lbs vs 70 lbs etc)

Also, #5 – this was something that the Japanese seemed to understand long before we did – or maybe the fact that we still haven’t understood this… and that is there is---

5. No allowance or immune system maturity (newborn vs 2 years or more) It is a very well established medical fact that many components of the immune system are not up the challenges that an older immune system can effectively face. This is why we get into the whole talk about breast milk and colostrum – it’s all because of immune system factors

So if you hit a newborn before the newborn gets out of the hospital with a dozen vaccines, that’s going to have so much more of a potentially overwhelming toxic impact than if the child or baby were four times a big and had an immune system that had matured for two years before the vaccine onslaught.

Vaccines and Toxicity

All negative outcomes of vaccines are toxin-induced … all of them.

SIDS is the ultimate expression of severe vaccine toxicity
The dreaded Sudden Infant Death Syndrome SIDS – no more or no less – the vast majority of the time, is the ultimate expression of vaccine toxicity. It’s kinda like if there were a lesser amount of vaccine toxicity, the baby doesn’t die on the spot…. just goes on to develop autism. With a little bit less, maybe just minimal brain dysfunction; little bit less, maybe just some personality changes. But when the toxin load is overwhelming, SIDS – supposedly something that they don’t know .what causes it – I can tell you that much if not most of the time is the result of overwhelming vaccine toxicity.

Archie Kalokerinos, “Every Second Child”
Dr. Archie Kalokerinos author of the book, Every Second Child when he was working with children of the Aborigines of Australia – well, one thing that all the children and the Aborigines shared was an absence a nutritious diet…almost devoid of any significant fresh vegetable or fruit or antioxidant intake at all. Dr. Kalokerinos very cogently observed there was an enormous amount of SIDS amongst the Aborigines after getting vaccinations. And he decided to start giving substantial doses of vitamin C and virtually eliminated what had been previously as the title of the book said, “Every Second Child” dying of a vaccination.

Dr. Kalokerinos virtually abolished what had been an epidemic of SIDS with vitamin C, similar to the work of Dr.Klenner giving vitamin C to women throughout their pregnancy

Now – I just want to throw this in because it’s a very timely event, especially when the panic levels seem to be increasing so rapidly with swine flu…and I am not here to give you any in-depth analysis of swine flu and who it does or doesn’t attack, mortality rates, blah blah blah…

What I will tell you is I had direct experience interacting with a patient who had advanced swine flu, hospitalized for two months, was finally intubated. On chest xray had a complete white-out of the chest, but the bottom line was the hospital wanted to discontinue life support… pull the plug. Well, the substance we are going to be talking about in more detail, was administered, large doses of vitamin C were given - it was incredible because it was the first time that a family – I had interacted with the family and said, I don’t know if you can pull it off or not but get him high doses of vitamin C. Well, they pulled the strings – I don’t know who knew whom, but let’s just say this was a rare circumstance of the hospital caving…literally caving.. and going ahead and giving doses of 50 to 100 grams of vitamin C intravenously every day for a week. The patient was pretty much awake in 36 – 48 hours and in just a couple weeks after this was administered, the patient was discharged.

So do you think – if vitamin C can save a patient with swine flu that they were ready to pull the plug on, you don’t think it might be able to prevent it to begin with?

While every virus hasn’t been tested certainly with vitamin C but I will tell you that there are no viruses found to be resistant when they have been tested to vitamin C or any other potent antioxidant for that matter.

Vitamin C and Swine Flu
Vitamin C has been document to save an individual with terminal swine flu: intubated and ready to have life support terminated.

There have been no viruses found to be resistant to vitamin C in laboratory testing.

There must be an adequate amount of vitamin C administered or it will be insufficient to the task.

The one thing you always have to remember when dealing with viruses, when dealing with vitamin C and with side effects from vaccines like we’re talking about is there must be an adequate amount of vitamin C administered. If there is a high toxin load, and you just give half of the amount of vitamin C that you need to give – well you just as well not have given any at all. So remember, dose is of paramount importance in giving effective antioxidant therapy in order to neutralize toxins.

A little political philosophizing here, but still a vaccination is sort of like a co-choice between the parent and the government with the government a bit bigger. You know you may have members of the family, even doctors, that are telling you how good vaccines are--- just try to make an informed decision. Try to take information like I’m presenting tonight and show it to someone who would try to have you do otherwise and say: “Well, I’m an open minded person, tell me why this information is wrong and why I shouldn’t be upset and frightened by it.”

Vaccines: What to Do?
Choosing to vaccinate or not is ultimately a parental choice, albeit at times with strong governmental coercion.

As with all medications, try to make an informed decision.

So – To minimize Toxicity in vaccines…very simple:

Vaccines Minimizing Toxicity
Optimizing antioxidant capacity in the body can minimize and often eliminate (completely) the negative impact of any toxin to which the body is exposed.

This includes vaccines.

Additionally, vitamin C has been shown to augment the antibody response to an antigen.

For those who are less impressed with the negative factors of vaccines, but still knowing they cause problems some of the time and almost certain that they help a lot of people, well, be aware that whatever antibody or immune system response someone was destined to have after being given a certain vaccination, vitamin C as an antioxidant in general, has been clearly shown to augment, increase and improve that antibody response. So whatever positive thing the vaccine does, the vitamin C will make it more positive.

Optimizing Antioxidant Status

Premier extracellular antioxidant: vitamin C

Premier intracellular antioxidant: Glutathione

Method of antioxidant delivery: oral, non-facilitated, intravenous, and oral, facilitated (liposomal)

In optimizing the antioxidant status in the body, it is important to understand that even though all antioxidants do the same thing in the sense of donating electrons, they will do it more or less effectively depending on their structure, how readily the electrons are given up – just from a chemical reaction point of view – and vitamin C because of its very simple molecular nature – vitamin C in animals is synthesized from glucose – a very simple molecule – small modifications are made on glucose and you end up with the vitamin C molecule. So it’s a small molecule, extremely water soluble, and basically ultimately able to penetrate all the different compartments of the body although its premier penetration is the extra-cellular area - blood, lymph and all the spaces outside of the cell.

Now there is vitamin C inside the cell, too. I don’t want anyone to think it’s not there, I’m just stating that vitamin C rules as your premier antioxidant outside of the cell.

The premier intra-cellular – the antioxidant inside the cell – is glutathione. Glutathione is a tri-peptide which is three amino acids hooked together and as nature would have it since nature has such an important function inside the cell to prevent toxic damage and repair toxic damage that has been initiated, is the extremely high concentration inside the cell …much much higher that outside of the cell.

Also for those who are interested, virtually all antioxidants that I know of have a little double-edge to them in that when you take their electrons away, they are suddenly now oxidized substances looking to take electrons away so they become toxins in their own right unless they are rapidly either recharged or eliminated out of the body.

You can imagine, this is very important inside the cell and glutathione, to my knowledge, is the only antioxidant that when you oxidize it – take the electrons away, – two spent glutathione molecules turn on each other and bind at the sulfhydryl groups so you have an inert molecule in terms of trying to take electrons away. So in other words, the spent glutathione isn’t out trying to deplete more electrons and kill the enzyme systems and the vitamin C and the other antioxidants inside the cell to recharge the glutathione.

Practical points
For those out there saying – okay, okay, I’m convinced, just tell me what I do… we are now at that part of the little talk.

In making a decision as to how to improve a/o capacity, we need to look at what’s available.

Basically three groups

Oral preparations of vitamin C that are what I call non-facilitated – just vitamin C which gets absorbed to a limited basis but for most people – they are vastly better than nothing. They just don’t give the degree of preparation of the next two choices.

The second form, of course, is intravenous and this is a form that is very important early on when toxins are still circulating in the blood.

The final form is what I call an oral-facilitated form - facilitated because it is wrapped inside a phospholipids called a liposome. What’s amazing about this type of preparation is that even though you take this orally, you ultimately end up improving the antioxidant status inside the cell better than with an IV. It seems a little crazy to hear at first but the liposome is still around the vitamin C once it passes across the cells in the gut, eventually gets into the blood, and because it’s still wrapped around that liposome – which is very tiny and basically made of the same substance as the natural cell walls themselves, it is able to merge with the cell wall or pass through small pores in the cell wall and is able to put the vitamin C or the glutathione or whatever is encapsulated in the liposome, directly inside the cell without consuming energy. That’s why clinically, it has so much more effect because to get what you want which is an energy-packing substance like the C or glutathione inside the cell. When you just give something intravenously, and without being wrapped in the liposome, it can still take energy-consuming transport pathways to get inside the cell.

When trying to give something like this, for infants, it’s always easier typically to just mix it with food. You do have to be aware that regular vitamin C such as ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate or other mineral ascorbates – you can get a fair dose inside the baby, child or whomever you are trying to dose… but reaching the optimal dose can cause stomach upset and diarrhea. And the last thing you want is a baby with diarrhea and one that still hasn’t been optimally protected.

This is another substantial benefit of liposomal preparations because they virtually, completely eliminate this possibility.

In terms of toxicity – not just vitamin C but glutathione is enormously useful in dealing with any acute toxin – administration vaccines included.

Glutathione and its related enzymes, the glutathione s-transferases – are designed to neutralize toxins so they are the chemical monitors inside your cells. So using a liposomal preparation of glutathione and getting glutathione at least transiently during the period before, during and after the vaccination – will blunt – if not eliminate any of the toxic impact that would have been felt without it.

So remember, this is not etched in stone. I’m trying to give you a reasonable game plan. Very few things in biological Science people realize are 100%. So remember if your infant or child, or if you are an adult contemplating the swine flu vaccine or whatever vaccine, if regular antioxidant administration is not already a routine, and you are basically dealing with an antioxidant supplement version, you should start substantial supplementation before an anticipated vaccine …for AT LEAST two days – if not much longer, and also very importantly to continue for at least two days afterward.

With all the work that I’ve done on vitamin C, I’m going to tell anyone that’s listening… I think you’re a little crazy if you don’t have a substantial, regular dose of antioxidation as part of a daily routine….just like breakfast, lunch and dinner; it’s very, very important. But, if for whatever reasons you just don’t’ want to take pills or swallow anything extra than food…then for sure administer these things 2 days before and 2 days after.

The only thing to keep in mind, and it’s usually quite apparent is a lot of these individuals who have not been chronic antioxidant takers already have a substantial amount of toxins that have accumulated in the cells and a small percentage and not an insignificant percentage, when they first start taking a lot of good-quality antioxidant including the liposome preparations we’re talking about, a small percentage will ‘sorta feel lousy’ and this is because after the antioxidants get inside the cell, they start re-activating enzymes inside the cells and kicking out waste products and you have a temporary self-limited detoxification reaction.

So I would only say, if for the sake of argument, that if the patients reacts initially to this …then postpone the vaccination until the detoxification reactions work their way out.

Optimizing Antioxidant Status
Protection can be enormously augmented with a liposome-mediated delivery of glutathione

Remember (if regular antioxidant administration is not already a routine for your infant or child) to start antioxidant protection against an anticipated vaccine administration a minimum of two days before and continue it for a minimum of two days afterward.

Be sure before proceeding with vaccine that the antioxidant therapy has not initiated an exaggerated detoxification reaction.

WRAP-UP
I’m trying to avoid giving doses because people hang so hard on wanting to know exactly how much to do. Most people that have taken antioxidant supplementation have a good idea what amount it takes for them to have an increased sense of well-being, an increased sense of health and for most people, this is going to be along the lines of anywhere from 5 to 15 grams of a regular form of vitamin C taken daily… sodium ascorbate, ascorbic acid these sort of things.

Now, again, many people run into stomach upset or bowel problems and as I said it is very difficult with the regular vitamin C preparations to know for sure that you are getting enough vitamin C where you want it – and where you want it in terms of the vaccination, is you want it accumulating inside the cells and to be present there at the time the toxins of the vaccination are introduced.

For most people, anywhere from one gram to 5 grams of the liposome preparation will give excellent protection. Along with an additional half to 2 grams of the liposomal encapsulated glutathione.

It’s important to understand, again, that nothing is for sure in dosing. And if you are a person with a large amount of toxicity, a great amount of dental toxicity, root canals, many of you understand what I’ve talked about and root canals in the past – anyway-- something that is going to use up whatever antioxidants you take and still leave you exposed excessively to the toxins of that vaccine – then you need to take more.

That’s why I said I’m steering away from trying to give hard and fast dosages – I’m just trying to give a range.

Again if you can postpone a vaccination, try to get that person on products like these for an extended period of time.…Two days is an absolute minimum – weeks would be much better…as a lifestyle, is much better.

A minimum of 2 days
1- 5 grams liposomal vitamin C – an infant could get away with half a gram each day but these have proven to be very non-toxic preparations so certainly if I were feeling compelled to take my infant in for a vaccination, I would want to err on an excess side of antioxidant supplementation rather than a very minimal side.

Q & A clips…just a few:

One caller comment was: If you are seriously thinking about getting the H1N1 vaccine, then seriously, you need to do more research.

Another comment: The methylmercury in thimerosol is much more toxic than lead. One comparison was from Dr. Dale Guyer’s (MD’s) presentation… if you were to take an amount of methylmercury that was the size of just one grain of salt and throw it into a large swimming pool, it would contaminate the whole pool and be unusable.

How much vitamin C can one safely take?
A. If you have normal kidney function – so put aside people with chronic kidney disease or chronic renal failure or people on dialysis, I do not believe there exists a toxic dose of vitamin C. I have given hundreds of grams of IV vitamin C without problems and others have given 300-400 grams daily in IV doses without problems.

To give a little more balance to that, and it not only makes an interesting anecdote but it is absolutely true… is when you are looking at can vitamin C toxic or not… would most people consider water to be toxic? Most would say no. But the medical textbooks and in the psychiatric tomes, it is very very very well established that you can drink enough water beyond all sense of thirst, to kill yourself because you dilute the sodium out of your body, have seizures and die. So this makes water a potentially fatal thing to take. At least that’s how someone who would be antiwater would phrase. Now, on the other hand, I don’t think you could give enough vitamin C to kill somebody much less make them sick.

So the real things you have to be concerned about in dosing vitamin C is – try to be aware of the goal. Try to be aware of a sense of well-being, if someone is sick – less than clinical symptoms, these sorts of things and that’s how Dr. Klenner many year ago regulated all of his vitamin C infusions or administrations was to give what was needed – early on to initiate a positive, clinical response. And as the positive clinical response became more pronounced, he was able to taper off the amount of vitamin C. So it really is… you take what you need.

Q – Can vitamin C be used with a pain killer or will it neutralize the pain killer?
A - Most Rx pain killers are pro-oxidant in nature they initiate whatever positive effect they have on pain pathways by having a pro-oxidant effect. So in the event you were able to take your vitamin C simultaneously enough with your pain killer so they are both circulating in the blood at the same time, there would be some validity to the fact that vitamin C could at least, partially, neutralize the effectiveness of the pain killer. However, having said that, as a practical point, if they take the painkiller at point 1 and vitamin C several hours later then all they will do is optimize the way they respond to the pain killer. It all has to do with priming of doses.

Q What are the maximum doses for patients that may be assessed for strong CAD or cardiac E-checks?
A. I mentioned earlier that maximum or minimal doses is such an individual type of thing. Let me just say that for antioxidant protection in general, (an adult), you need the equivalent..emphasize equivalent.. of probably 8, 10, 12, 15 grams a day of regular vitamin C. However, it’s difficult to dose that type of vitamin C without having the bowel effect and to this end, I found that 2 to 4 grams of the liposome encapsulated form vitamin C of seems to provide that type of protection.

Q…When Paul Offutt says that infants could have 10,000 vaccines is he not showing some lack of awareness of the toxic effects of vaccines? Paul Offutt seems to wear a lot of hats ..he has made many millions of dollars inventing vaccines..somehow he is able to do that and also be a spokesperson for American Academy of Pediatrics and sit on the ACIP which is the decision making unit of the CDC. He actually said at one time a hundred thousand vaccines but then recanted and said theoretically a baby could take 10,000 vaccines.

A. He is showing frank cerebral insufficiency. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything more scientifically mis-guided and frankly asinine from any scientific aspect at all. Now, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt…if he has no concept at all, and I would suspect he does not, as to what a toxin does to the body, what a toxin does to electrons in the body, to your antioxidant status, and how vaccines work in terms of needing to deliver an X amount of toxins to even do their job, if he’s not aware of any of that,
then maybe for him, it was a scientifically honest, if misguided statement.

The end.

References:
http://www.tomlevymd.com/downloads/Curriculum_Vitae.pdf

http://www.livonlabs.com/

http://www.livonlabs.com/Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-C.html



 

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