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Some interesting info about bicarbonates by Will_I_Ever_Learn ..... Alkaline/Acid Debate Forum

Date:   11/16/2009 9:43:31 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Hi grz
 
1st About water filtering systems I don't know much. I guess the system will depend on what water to filter and what we want to get. Some system use ozone to sterilize. I recall Ted from Earthclinic talking about sodium thiosulfate as being sold as dechlorinator.
 
From http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide.html >By the way, an easy way to test the quality of your drinking water is to add 10% of 3% H2O2 to 90% Water and perform the test by noticing air bubbles. If there are a lot of air bubbles for the next 6 hours, then the water has either too much organic residues OR heavy metals. During the test please keep in places AWAY from children. After the test immediately discard the contents into the sink. Ted"<
 
2ndAbout hydrogen carbonate (a.k.a bicarbonate HCO3-).
Dr R. Young talks a lot about the importance of bicarbonates. He is selling a product made of Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium and Sodium Bicarbonates. Unfortunately, I could not find the proportion of each in his product. It seems that it is not disclosed.
 
From http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2008/08/83-reasons-and-ways-to-use-phour...
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"During the Olympics in Athens, Greece and now in
Beijing, China several top athletes have improved
their athletic performance and even broke world
records using sodium bicarbonate," states Dr. Young.

A recent London Times article and scientific
research substantiates Dr. Young's claims,
"some athletes relied on more rudimentary -
and legal - means to boost their race times,
including using a substance tucked away in a
kitchen cupboard or in the back of a refrigerator."
This substance is, sodium bicarbonate or baking soda.

"Athletes for years have sworn that taking a spoonful
of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) helps them to
keep going for longer. For years, experts doubted
that there was anything other than a placebo effect
to these claims until they subjected the substance
to rigorous examination. Most exercise scientists
investigating the trend for “soda-doping” among
athletes and gym-goers have shown that it offers
significant benefits for endurance and speed."

At Loughborough University, for instance,
physiologists reporting in the June issue of
the International Journal of Sports Medicine
showed that swimmers who took baking soda about
one hour before a 200m event were able to shave
a significant time off their usual performances.
Dr Jonathan Folland, who led the study, says that
it is not uncommon for top swimmers to take
sodium bicarbonate (another name for the substance)
before a competition to give them an edge. Indeed,
he showed that of nine swimmers tested, eight
recorded their fastest times after ingesting a
supplement of the common baking ingredient - sodium
bicarbonate.

Another small study by Dr Ronald Deitrick,of the
American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM), showed
that competitive runners also benefited. Dr Deitrick,
who presented his findings at the ACSM annual
conference, gave 800m runners either a placebo or
a sodium bicarbonate capsule, which they took with
water. Although a few of the runners had minor
gastrointestinal problems after swallowing the
capsules, a greater number benefited significantly.

Just last week, an Australian sports scientist said
that the use of legal performance-enhancing substances
could become a major issue of the Beijing Olympics.
“Beijing will probably be remembered for the abuse
of legal aids,” said Robin Parisotto on Australian
radio.

And Dr Deitrick believes that bicarbonate of soda
can significantly improve performance. “If you took
out the participants who experienced negative side-
effects... you'd see an average improvement in running
times of about 2.2 seconds,” Dr Deitrick says. “For a
relatively short running distance, that's very
significant.”

But how does something so seemingly innocuous have
such a dramatic effect? During prolonged or intense
exercise muscles produce large amounts of acidic
waste products, such as lactic acid, that lead to
soreness, stiffness and fatigue. Because sodium
bicarbonate naturally reduces acids, it acts as a
buffer against these performance-limiting by-products.

Current research suggests that it is particularly
helpful in speed-based events, including sprints,
football and other fast-moving games, and middle-
distance (up to 10km) running, swimming and cycling.
“Essentially, sodium bicarbonate is an alkaline
substance that increases the pH of the blood,”
Dr Folland says. “This seems to reduce and offset
the acidity produced in the muscles during intense,
anaerobic exercise that produces lactic acid most
quickly, such as fast running or swimming.”

In Dr Folland's study, swimmers who took the sodium
bicarbonate knocked 1.5 seconds off their time for
200m, a difference that may seem insignificant to
recreational swimmers but which is substantial at
elite level.

“At the last Olympics, the top four swimmers in the
men's 200m freestyle were separated by just 1.4
seconds,” Dr Folland says. “So, in theory, it could
be the difference between winning a medal and not.”
--end of quote--
 
Magnesium Bicarbonate
 
From http://www.rexresearch.com/beckett/1beckett.htm
--Beginning of quote--
"Water that Adds Years to Cattle Life and Cures Ailments"
A Sydney soft drinks producer has been inundated with demand for his latest product, a mineral-rich water which doubles the life of cattle and is claimed to cure ailments like arthritis and osteoporosis. Developed by former vet Russell Beckett, who has a doctorate in biochemical pathology, "Unique Water" has just gone on sale after testing by 100 Australians. One is Paul Sheehan, a respected Sydney journalist, who said in the Sydney Morning Herald at the weekend how it has cured him of a series of long-term autoimmune diseases. A letter from Sheehan's doctor said: "He has anklyosing spondylitis, and is now undergoing investigation for lupus erythematosis. He suffers constant back and neck pains, florid facial rash, extreme fatigue and shoulder pains."
The illness is incurable and requires constant treatment. But Sheehan said after taking Beckett's water for two years, he was no longer consuming drugs of any kind, suffered no back or neck pain nor any of the other symptoms of the diseases. "For someone with a cocktail of chronic conditions, I feel suspiciously normal and relatively pain-free," he said. A number of prominent people are said to have undergone similar cures since starting to drink what they call "magic water", which is richer in some minerals and found naturally in some places. None has a financial interest in the product.
Beckett, who has spent 20 years researching it, has been granted patents in Australia and in the United States where the Patent and Trademark Office describes it as "A method of preventing or treating inflammatory diseases or degenerative diseases in a mammal." His claimed breakthrough is based on the proposition that acids formed from carbon dioxide produced by the body contribute to fatigue and degeneration and are the building blocks for all inflammatory diseases. They are key factors in rheumatoid and osteo-athritis, osteoporosis and some cancers and skin diseases. Beckett’s key breakthrough is claimed to be the anti-acid magnesium bicarbonate in the water which travels down the individual cells where it acts as a protective buffer against excess carbon dioxide and acid. He tried to prove his theories by testing the ingredients on sheep for many years before realizing that such water must occur naturally somewhere. He found it, by coincidence, in the Monaro region of the Snowy Mountains near Canberra where farmers had known for years about the longevity of cattle and sheep. The government-run Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation had been researching for 35 years why some animals lived twice as long, and most lived at least 30% longer.
Despite the success of the trials in Sydney, Beckett acknowledges his theory will take many years and many thousands more people to prove. But through a Sydney soft drinks manufacturer Bert’s Soft Drinks, Beckett has organized commercial sales of the water. "We have been absolutely inundated with calls for it since it went on sale on Saturday," said Bert's managing director Arthur Shelly. "It has gone from nowhere to our top selling product overnight." AFP
--end of quote--
 
 
According to this http://www.earthclinic.com/Supplements/magnesium.html#MBS_34895
--Beginning of quote--
The patented drinking solution consists mainly of Magnesium Bicarbonate and Sodium Bicarbonate in simple aqueous solution.
 
The description in the patent says to add 500 mgs Magnesium Carbonate or Magnesium hydroxide to 1 litre cold carbonated water. Store in the fridge for 24 -- 72 hours and allow the solution to clear from cloudy. Add a small amount of amount -- 120 mg -- of Sodium Bicarbonate.
 
Drink this mixture throughout the day but not with meals -- one hour before or two hours after meals. Adjust to a lower dose if bowels become too loose.
 
You could also make this solution by using MoM and Baking soda quite easily -- using Phillip's Milk of Magnesia, Baking Soda and seltzer or carbonated water. Do not use the MoM that contains Aluminium Hydroxide.
--end of quote--
 
Also checks eathclinic's Ted “Ormus” or carbbicarb. Carbbicarb is a solution of sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate which has an effect of alkalizing the brain. I think it was experimented with dogs to “resuscitate” them, when there is too much CO2 in the blood and brain. (ex after a stroke)
 
 
Interesting topics indeed!
 
Cheers
 
WIEL
 


 

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