Date:   10/22/2009 1:56:07 AM ( 15 y ago)
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 my vitamin b12 levels have dropped from 527pmol/L in 2005 to 178 this year. but i can't tolerate b12 supplements or injections - they make me crash, badly. likewise, my ferritin level has dropped from 117ug/L to 56 this year; and rbc folate from 3356nmol/L to 1862. i know i am deficient in all b vitamins but i can't seem to take them.

What about red meats?  As long as you maintain your stomach acidity you will be able to absorb the B12 from the meat.  And keeping up your flora will help since the flora generate B vitamins, including B12. Other B vitamins can be derived from rice bran, oat bran, pollen, seaweeds, nutritional yeast, nettle leaf, gotu kola, etc.

hopefully the seaweed and bee pollen will be more effective (if it ever arrives)

i'm also thinking about trying to get my amino acid levels checked...? 

Hv: Fluid retention can be caused from a number of reasons.  Adrenal issues are a common cause.  It can also be from low potassium or problems with the heart, kidneys, nerves controlling  blood vessels or lymphatic system.  High vasopressin levels are another possibility

for some reason, no doctor will give me a referral for the pathology test for potassium/electrolytes. i crashed when i took potassium chloride powder. i am going to see if my new (very expensive doctor) will do the potassium/electrolyte tests for me.

ditto vasopressin. i asked for this 3 years ago (2 different gps) and they were really dismissive. i just wanted to get my antidiuretic hormone (SIADH) secretion, arginine vasopressin (AVP) and anti-diuretic hormone (ADH) levels checked. both of them looked at me as if i was asking them to join a fringe religion. one of them, grudgingly, ordered a 24-hour urine test for diabetes insipidus - which i didn't have any symptoms for except frequent urination. if it was vasopression, how would you treat this herbally?

If you have the symptom of frequent urination then it is not an issue with vasopressin.

heart, kidneys - all good. not sure about blood vessel nerves, but i think my lymphatic system probably has something to do with it (but i don't believe it is causal). i did a really rigorous protocol for about 3 months that involved skin brushing, rebounding, hot/cold showers, lymphatic drainage massage, reiki and even daily ice-baths (brrr) and i was still puffy and tired. and the protocol itself was exhausting...

The lymphatic system is looking more and more like the best possibility.  There are some herbs that are great for the lymphatic system.  These include red root (New Jersey tea), mullein leaf and chickweed.

adrenals - sure thing. but i've never read anything about adrenal fatigue patients having the same kind of chronic crazy systemic puffiness that i have. and i've had it for over 3 years now so, ya know, time to move on...

The adrenals help to regulate fluids in the body through the mineralcorticoid aldosterone. Aldosteronism can cause the fluid retention.  Primary aldosteronism would also present with abnormally low potassium levels though.  I am wondering if the crash you experienced with the potassium chloride had something to do with this?  Maybe it was causing the electolytes to go way out of balance or maybe made the adrenals work overtime trying to restore the former sodium levels?

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