Re: slow phase 2 liver detox + adrenal fatigue by l*u*l*u* ..... The Truth in Medicine
Date: 10/21/2009 3:25:36 AM ( 15 y ago)
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Hv: Choline is your strongest methyl donor, followed by TMG, then DMG and finally SAMe. But TMG is safer than choline and can be taken at much higher levels.
i guess the issue is about whether i am under- or over- methylating. for example, i don't do well with folic acid, b12, b6 and i can only take tmg if i'm feeling tough because it can make me crash. these are symptomatic of over-methylation (according to pfeiffer treatment center). overmethylators also have an adverse reaction to serotonin-enhancing substances such as prozac (as per my earlier post). under-methylators have problems with b3 - and i really really did when i was supplementing with activated b3.
my vitamin b12 levels have dropped from 527pmol/L in 2005 to 178 this year. but i can't tolerate b12 supplements or injections - they make me crash, badly. likewise, my ferritin level has dropped from 117ug/L to 56 this year; and rbc folate from 3356nmol/L to 1862. i know i am deficient in all b vitamins but i can't seem to take them.
hopefully the seaweed and bee pollen will be more effective (if it ever arrives)
i'm also thinking about trying to get my amino acid levels checked...?
Hv: Fluid retention can be caused from a number of reasons. Adrenal issues are a common cause. It can also be from low potassium or problems with the heart, kidneys, nerves controlling blood vessels or lymphatic system. High vasopressin levels are another possibility
for some reason, no doctor will give me a referral for the pathology test for potassium/electrolytes. i crashed when i took potassium chloride powder. i am going to see if my new (very expensive doctor) will do the potassium/electrolyte tests for me.
ditto vasopressin. i asked for this 3 years ago (2 different gps) and they were really dismissive. i just wanted to get my antidiuretic hormone (SIADH) secretion, arginine vasopressin (AVP) and anti-diuretic hormone (ADH) levels checked. both of them looked at me as if i was asking them to join a fringe religion. one of them, grudgingly, ordered a 24-hour urine test for diabetes insipidus - which i didn't have any symptoms for except frequent urination. if it was vasopression, how would you treat this herbally?
heart, kidneys - all good. not sure about blood vessel nerves, but i think my lymphatic system probably has something to do with it (but i don't believe it is causal). i did a really rigorous protocol for about 3 months that involved skin brushing, rebounding, hot/cold showers, lymphatic drainage massage, reiki and even daily ice-baths (brrr) and i was still puffy and tired. and the protocol itself was exhausting...
adrenals - sure thing. but i've never read anything about adrenal fatigue patients having the same kind of chronic crazy systemic puffiness that i have. and i've had it for over 3 years now so, ya know, time to move on...
grrr.
- lulu
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