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Re: --The Question of Bitters vs Kelp-- edited/spellcheck and a bit more by chirontherainbowbridge ..... Ask Moreless: pH Balance

Date:   9/23/2009 1:06:53 PM ( 15 y ago)
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you know Moreless, you could have simply answered my question asking about your thoughts on these, since if you review my post, you will see it was a genuine question.

Instead, you dismissed the post with the interpretation that it might be somehow a conspiracy to undermine your protocol...

So often that is your attitude. I wonder if you have ever considered the great patience and generosity of others on this forum--the ones who overlook your continual finger-wagging, and with humility choose to see instead your good qualities. I would think reflecting on this might bring you a flush of gratitude for the workings of this Universe, and calm some of your tendancy to 'soapbox'.



And now, you have somewhat answered the question, but as so often the case, with snarkiness and self-righteousness and innuendo embedded.

I recall you saying recently -many times- that God doesn't punish us with 'curses' ( rather than blessings ) for wrongdoing, but others do. Somewhat as mirrors reflect what is there, so that we may amend our ways, and our habits of
wrong-mindedness. Please note I don't say sin, because honestly, all this error is illusion anyway--nevertheless, since we are subject to it, we must meet it on its own ground.

You often take it upon yourself to 'curse' the one asking the question. It might be veiled behind the smile 'tis your choice brightness, and the many, many advertisements you post proclaiming (drumming) that no other forum gets results like this one; but the aggression: the lack of respect for others as Divine beings is what 'has gone up', and now comes down, in a sort of a rain of- not blessings upon you, but a bit of ye old 'what goes around comes around'.



Here are examples of the way you cut down others, while raising yourself up.


"if we were smart enough to select the correct bitters for the correct problem?"



"Could this make the one suggesting Bitters to seem like someone Important, because WE would have to be some Expert to know all the Different Bitters and how to match them up to all the Different problems?"



Posting this sort of thing after you've demeaned the original question, and even questioned its 'sense of honor'
by using it as part of an arsenal of 'proof' of 'dilution', is a not-so-subtle way of putting lots of others down, in their absence.


To which person(s) does it refer? the reader only wonders. The one asking about bitters? (me) or just anyone even mentioning the word? Or, someone who mentioned it on another forum that you have visited? Maybe where it is one of the central protocols? who knows? One simply doesn't know, but the effect is rather like a slow-creeping poison of divisive speech.

Speech aimed at dividing any of us from God.
(the result of course is one exiles oneself--since God knows no sin, but one's inner self seeks to 'make right')



why not be straight and simple...?



"What about Bitters could cause them to work in the first place?

Could it be the Concentration of Specific Alkaline Minerals?

Surely it could not be this Simple?

Could it be?"




One wonders if a parent repeatedly told you you were stupid, and belittled you, rather than simply answering your simple questions as a young child.

I ( and refreshed ) speculated about just this alkaline mineral thing, in thread--but again, you chose not to even respectfully address my (our) question (s) in that thread. Readers can go and look for themselves.

oh well.. It is your choice as forum 'owner' to answer however you feel inclined. But you must recognize others too have choice as to whether to see a Truth that is inclusive, or one that divides.


I spoke truth when I said I have respect for your wish to make healing simple and widely available, but why do you jump to the (rather ungenerous) judgement that bitters has to be all about dollars or some attempt to violate your ph methods.

Some people like to gather herbs, grow their own food! all things in line with "this" protocol--unless I'm mistaken.

To imagine that anyone here is a "beggar" does God a disservice. That's okay! God will overlook, since God is love, but the effects of perceiving others who might appear (in some moments) to need help as being somehow less than oneself is a grave error.



I posted the recipe btw, in the spirit of enthusiasm, and Not (as some clearly leapt to thinking) as a blind directive for others to follow to the letter. I do not assume all others are "stupid", and need to be consistently mocked to learn. Sometimes a recipe is just an idea. A flicker of sunlight.


.."there is a Smarter and Better way!

Top Quality Kelp may supply all the needed Alkaline Minerals, not just Specific Concentrations of certain Alkaloids as Bitters may contain!"


Great!!! That's good to know, but I was not ever suggesting kelp be wiped from the face of the earth. Nor do I think there is any war betweeen kelp and herbs (God-given as "meat").

I think your desire to be appreciated/seen for the methods you've learned is getting out of control--it's overtaking your good wish to provide freely shared truths---

How else to explain your rigid demand that this protocol not be diluted, and that anyone adding anything else (besides what you have declared whole or 'holy') is "against God". This is sheer lunacy.


And it would be easy enough for you to have addressed my original post, instead of grandstanding with a later post, in this way--in the way that you often choose: a mode of action that always has an element of undermining/proving anyone else's (dis)abilities to reason, to discover, to share, or to be at peer level. Again, that hints at some parental trauma or neurosis maybe. Parents sadly, often do treat children as both little gods, and as something less than fully human. A kind of pandering that diminshes the person's light. I don't know if this has happened to you, but I do recall you have more than once said as much of others, speculating on their inability to grasp what you know.



There is a general discouraging of joy on this forum. Almost as if no one is allowed to get well enough to have grown beyond a certain ceiling of gratefulness and smallness.

You have repeatedly said the whole universe ( and there are 900 billion billion of them, but okay--we'll leave it at THIS one, for now) operates on the pH principles, so why all the policing of what's allowed to be spoken of? Or even considered. Why all the perceived threat?

threat sees attack everywhere. While simple calm and gratitude for the abundance we all share, sees goodness, and seeks to prove that.



This (perceived shadows lurking everywhere) is what has arrived here, as mirror, of late, not some conspiracy from 'out there'.

"I'm starting with the man in the mirror!" MJ.


yes!!! good, sober reflection.


I go to watch my roses open. Be well.

C


 

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