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The "DEPTHS" of God require humility, not "scholarly" pride/vanity. by been there done that ..... God Without Religion Debate

Date:   9/14/2009 7:46:48 AM ( 15 y ago)
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This is a repost from another forum, but I explain what people find so non-sensical and insincere about "christianity" and that "christianity" is not the true devotion to Jesus that we think.

God is LOVE, not faith (have a "faith for faith"). The ability to believe something does not impress God (I have faith in the laws of physics, but I don't love them). God says that if we "DELIGHT" (rejoice/truly and sincerely LOVE) in Him, then He will give us the desire of our heart (what is your true desire?...God knows what it really is). He is my true/deepest desire (to draw near to Him). So, He gave me the wisdom (wisdom is nothing more than common sense for a pure heart) to know the DEPTHS of God...read on.....
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In Jesus's time, many Jews, Greeks, Ethiopians, Macedonians, etc. were learning a new type of devotion to God ("Jesus devotion" instead of "Moses devotion" and idol worship). They could never completely shed all of their old beliefs, practices, and attitudes about devotion (Paul often found himself addressing this in his letters). In Antioch, they all chose a name that they could agree on...

"and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christians" (Acts 11:26).

In Acts 24:22, a Roman official was talking to Paul about Paul's devotion to Jesus...

"But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of THE WAY" (Acts 24:22).

...and in John 14:6, Jesus said "I am THE WAY,...".

The "moneychangers" have continued their practice of making The Lord's house a money making business and a domain/kingdom of pride/status for all of the worshippers in the "church of man"/apostate church (not "church of God").

The "strong delusion" is NOT a future event. It has been around all throughout history for all who continue to do as the Pharisees (worshipping with money and pride/status)

In the old way of worship (old testament), the priests had to repeatedly make offerings for the cleansing of the sinner, but now the righteous are a new creation (spiritual creation/entity) and exist inside Jesus's body (the righteous might commit "wrongdoing",....NOT "sin")...

"If the worshipers had once been cleansed, they would no longer have any consciousness of sin" (Hebrews 10:2).

The "DEPTHS of God" (1 Corinthians 2:10) require us to have a "faith for faith" (Romans 1:17) and a "more excellent" devotion (1 Corinthians 12:31) based on "the greatest of these" (1 Corinthians 13:13) but the strong delusion has always been the preference of humanity since Antioch.

In "three days", Jesus established the new worship temple (the outer temple) and each of us are the INNER temple...

John 2:19 and 21
"three days"...."He was speaking of the temple of His body".

1 Corinthians 3:16
"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?.

1 Corinthians 6:19
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?".

There should be no public prayer or worship with "lips"/sound...

Matthew 6:6
"But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door".

The LIVING water that flowed from Christ's side at the cross will consecrate/baptize the inner temple to the outer temple so that we "neither thirst" (Revelation 7:16) ...

1 John 5:6
"He came by water and blood".

John 7:38
"He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, 'Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water".


John baptized with H2O, but now God's spirit witnesses to the spirit of the righteous (Acts 1:5)...

Ephesians 4:5
"one lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM".

Romans 8:16
"it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God",

Instead of pridefully pursuing the "fruits" that are owned and manifested by God's spirit, we should have "fruit" of our own righteousness...

Ephesians 5:8 and 9
"walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true)".

Because Jesus did the works of God, the sin laws were abolished and replaced by the perfect law...

Ephesians 2:15
"by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and [their] ordinances" (ordinances/rules of worship and propriety no longer apply).

James 1:25
"But he who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty".

James 2:12
"So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty".

...but only those who wish to have a more excellent devotion (a TWO way relationship) will look into "the PERFECT law" (mankind has always preferred a "monetary/pride" relationship instead>>STRONG DELUSION). There is a reason Jesus specified "because they refused to love the truth and so be saved" (2 Thessalonians 2:10) and had Pilate say in John 18:38 "What is TRUTH?" (so the sincere would seek the truth and BE SAVED).

John 6:28
"Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?".

John 9:3
"Jesus answered,.....the works of God might be made manifest in him".

Now the body of Jesus is our sabbath rest (no more sabbath DAY) and we should simply REST/relax in Jesus. Jesus's gift of salvation is GRACIOUS (a FREE gift, not IMPERIALISTIC) and NOTHING is expected in return.

The bible ("doctrine of Christ", Hebrews 6:1, Ephesians 6:17) shall not be OUR spiritual authority. Jesus said that HE is our ONLY spiritual authority...

Matthew 28:18
"ALL authority in heaven and earth has been given to ME" (only Jesus hung on the cross).

Luke 15:7
"righteous persons who need no repentance" (some need to repent of an evil lifestyle and some don't).

"the faith that you have, keep between yourself and The Lord" (Romans 14:22).

"that God may be EVERYTHING (spiritually) to every one" (to each of us, 1 Corinthians 15:28).

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=no+long...

We shouldn't live by the words that HAVE PROCEEDED from the mouth of God 2000 years ago and earlier, but the words that PRESENTLY proceed from His mouth when we HEAR His voice in our conscience (John 10:27).

Don't be a sheep who "climb in by another way" (John 10:1), but enter "BY THE DOOR" (2 kinds of sheep, those of the 'church of man' and those of the church OF GOD (the 'church of man' sheep are only fooling themselves).

All verses are from the RSV.

 

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