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Peace and harmony are logical, evil is illogical....EDITED by been there done that ..... Religions Debate Forum

Date:   9/12/2009 7:40:32 PM ( 15 y ago)
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I was a Christian for 23 years since I was 32.

The "depths of God" (1 Corinthians 2:10) are for all who rather have a "more excellent" devotion (1 Corinthians 12:31) that is based on "the greatest of these" (1 Corinthians 13:13) and a "faith for faith" (Romans 1:17, Hebrews 11:6).

In my experience, aetheists tend to have a natural righteousness of their own (good and right and true) but they reject all of the non-sensical, partisan beliefs and protocol of the 'church of man' (very wise).

The reason so many false beliefs have always been believed is "self abasement" (Colossians 2:18). SELF abasement does not only refer to 'putting yourself down' (belittling yourself), it refers to surrendering a true identity of SELF (identity abaTement). It becomes no longer possible to 'acheive consciousness' (realize a "SELF") and think/reason as a free thinking human being (it is dehumanizing/demoralizing). At that point, ANYTHING will be believed by the person regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

In order to relate to and identify with the creator (the heavenly father,..."I am who I am", Exodus 3:14), we must know and be who we are (establish a conscience). "I am who I am" (the father's "forever" name) sent His son to 'purify' the "flesh" (our mortal bodies), but just like all of the sacrifices offered in the old way of worship (old testament), the sacrifice of Jesus (lamb of God) on the cross could not make "perfect the conscience of the worshipper" (Hebrews 9:9). It is only by letting GOD'S SPIRIT "indwell"/coincide within OUR SPIRIT that God's eternal spirit can "purify your conscience"...

Hebrews 9:14
"the eternal spirit...purify your conscience".

There have been alot of partisan beliefs and protocol taught in the last 1950 years since the apostate church (church of man) began in Antioch, but GOD IS LOVE (THAT is what devotion is all about...loving GOD the creator and peaceful coexistence/peace and harmony...anything that disrupts peaceful coexistence is "EVIL"). "Loving" your fellow human being has always been explained with EMOTIONS and having a PERSONALITY of bleeding heart "compassion", but we should not love others MORE than we love ourselves, we should only love others AS we love ourselves (what sane, humble and emotionally stable person on earth has the need or desire to show love to themselves??). If and whenever we decide to give help/assistance to someone, we should not be giving it GRUDGINGLY, we should be giving it WILLINGLY/cheerfully.

By nature, aetheists have a good understanding of how the creator would want them to deal with life (righteously doing what is just), but it is not just what the modern moneychangers have done to distort the truth of God that turns them off, it is the PRIDE/vanity of the worshippers in the apostate church that is so incredibly hypocritical and insincere to them (take care in speaking cross of an aetheist, you convict yourself).


In ancient Antioch, people from all walks of life (Jews, Greeks, Ethiopians, Palestinians, etc.) were learning a new devotion to God ('Jesus devotion') but were not completely able to shed/discard their old beliefs, practices, attitudes, traditions, idols, etc., so they all decided on a name that they could agree on.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=first+c...

...(in the above link, put any search word in and get a list of verses).


In Acts 24:22, a Roman official (Felix) was talking to Paul about Paul's devotion to Jesus...

"But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of THE WAY...".

In John 14:6, Jesus said "I am THE WAY...".

The 'bible' (word not found in scripture) is the "doctrine of Christ" meant for the TRAINING (2 Timothy 3:16) of "babes in Christ" (1 Corinthians 3;1). In order to grow spiritually inside the body of Christ (mature in our devotion), we should learn to discern properly between what is good and what is 'not good' (evil). When we learn to have the discerning "sword"/understanding that a Godly person should have, we will have the "sword" of the spirit...

Ephesians 6:17
"sword of the spirit (which is the word of God)".

JESUS became the new worship temple (the OUTER temple, there should be no buildings/worship centers) in "three days" from crucifixion to ressurrection. WE each are the INNER temple...

John 2:19 and 21
"three days"...."He was speaking of the temple of HIS BODY".

WE are the INNER TEMPLE (1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19).

There should be no public prayer or "worship with lips"/sound...

Matthew 6:6
"But when you pray, go into your room AND SHUT THE DOOR...".

Amos 5:21
"I HATE, I despise your feasts and your solemn assemblies"...there should be NO worship buildings at all.

Jesus became our sabbath rest (no more sabbath DAY) because He did the "works of God" (John 6:28 and 9:3) and we should let His "works" be manifest in us so that we simply REST IN THE LORD [and be bored]. ALL of God's gifts (salvation included) are given GRACIOUSLY (not imperialistically) and nothing is expected in return.

The water that flowed with Christ's blood at the cross ("He came by water and blood", 1 John 5:6) is the "living" water of God's spirit that baptizes/consecrates the inner temple to the outer temple (Acts 1:5, John 7:38) so that we "neither thirst" (Revelation 7:16).

When we mature in our devotion, we can acknowledge the inner seed ("anointing") from our heritage (in effect, Godly common sense) and we will learn God's truth (needing no spiritual teachers,...teachers are only for "babes" that need training)...

1 John 2:27
"as His anointing teaches you about everything, and is TRUE".

Aetheists should not avoid accepting Jesus as the savior sent by the creator, but all the hypocrisy, partisanship, and protocol taught by the moneychanger empire and also by the prideful worshippers that seek to be 'GIFTWORTHY' and great academic intellectuals has chased away them and all others.

The bible is not an authority of any kind (it is a helpful REFERENCE). It did not die on the cross or suffer pain.

Jesus said

Matthew 28:18
"ALL AUTHORITY in heaven and earth has been given to ME".

Colossians 2:9
"in His flesh, He ABOLISHED the law of commandments".

James 1:25
"the PERFECT law, the law of liberty".

James 2:12
"So speak and so act...".

Know God in a more friendly manner (the spirit of sonship, James 2:23) as "Abba Father" (dear father, Galatians 4:6) instead of as a slave/servant and their MASTER/taskmaster.

Let your love be perfected (1 John 4:18, Isaiah 29:13) so that you desire (instead of resent/fear) His correction when and IF He decides that you should learn the error of your way.

There are two kinds of sheep...
1) those of "the church of man" (they use 'book compliance' to "force the kingdom to come to them, Matthew 11:12) and must be forced/commanded to be righteous ('obey or else'...ultimatum).

and

2) those of the church of GOD.

................enter by the door (John 10:1 and 9).

Luke 15:7
"righteous persons who need no repentance".

Romans 14:22
"the faith that you have, keep between yourself and God".

1 Corinthians 15:28
"so that God may be everything..."...to each one of us.

...because we are not supposed to live by the words that HAVE PROCEEDED from the mouth of God 2000 years ago and earlier, we are to live by every word that [PRESENTLY] PROCEEDS from Him (Matthew 4:4).



The depths of God are for those who will remember the creator with fond memories (Abba father).

 

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