Date:   9/7/2009 4:42:12 AM ( 15 y ago)
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Well HV, I of course agree with you on the fear/bashing tactics used by 'groups' in order to gain control or possession of things. The road is historically littered with this, and I would be the last to pick on religion as the main group that utilizes this tactic.

The analysis for me is simple tho. I referenced the New Life Church in Colorado Springs as one example of where the vitriol was so vicious towards for instance, homosexuals, only to find that the founder of that church was smack in the middle of this activity. It was beyond belief, but oh so predictable. The 'thou doth protest too much' thing.

However, the core questions for me are very simple. Was the stunningly hypocritical nature of the activity the thing, or was it the lie, the perpetual lie, the thing?

I say it is the lie. Because once trust is broken, I believe everyone knows how difficult it is to learn to trust again someone or something that has violated that trust. And that is my point. People will choose to overlook the most egregious lie and flock back to the authority of their belief systems. It goes beyond words to me how human behavior can be that asleep, but we for the most part, are.

Trust. A lie. These are stunning challenges I see every day, in how people can overlook such things when it comes to comforts, to bank accounts, to a lot of things. Not here, not with me. A reason I question people or groups who are so sure, so certain, so convicted to a thing is that they are almost always wrong. I find it more appropriate to let some things remain a mystery, remain a faith, instead of assigning absolutes to things. Hell, just the simple translations of language creates enormous problems in historical analysis.

I am not a linguist, but as simple as words provides universal challenges. While it is a novel, East of Eden by Steinbeck provokes an interesting piece of logic when it comes to translation. I do not claim that this is in any way authoritative, but it does present to us that being so sure, so absolute, contains the concomitants of failure.

As a brainteaser in terms of a single word:

http://www.kiwicafe.com/blog/index.php?/archives/134-timshel,-thou-mayest.html


My admonishon to people is that being so sure, so convinced of a thing is inviting failure of epic proportions. Better to consider things might be so. That road that is littered with lies and shredded trust is also littered with convictions gone awry, constantly. Thing is, motive is usually easy to spot. It boggles to see how many tho swallow hook, line, sinker, to a thing.
 

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