Date:   8/18/2009 9:46:56 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Very good stuff, H - though I hold echinacea in higher regard than you apparently do.  I do however agree that it is not something I would rely on by itself to try to beat cancer with, though I believe Unyquity when she states she has seen it work in many instances.  I favor the mulitple direction approach which attempts to addres all facets of cancer, killing off or reverting cancer cells and preventing their return (which is to say preventing them from ever again regaining a foothold).

I know that you feel strongly that most cancer is viral in nature - but I think that it would be more accurate to say that most cancer has a viral element.  The question is "which came first, the virus or the cancer".  It may well be that the cancer viruses we see are the result of pleomorphic changes caused by the cancer process itself.  I make the same observation to those who would contend that cancer if fungal in nature.  Which came first, the fungus or the cancer?  I do agree that once cancer has gained a foothold it then becomes viral in nature and spreads in great part due to the viral nature.

I also agree wholeheartedly that Moritz's idea of cancer being a survival mechanism of the body itself is bunk!

And I have to chuckle when I see you correctly observe that heating and alcohol extractions of herbs change the nature of the herb to something quite different in many instances than a "whole herb product" - though I am not dissing Unyquity, because I know from experience that she makes some wonderful extracts, tinctures and such.

If it weren't for an aqueous extraction method, we would not be able to have the wonderful benefits of oleander extract.  And,similar to some other herbs, as noted by the American Botanical Council, sometimes the aqueous extraction method is superior for certain herbs.  That is especially true for oleander because valuable non-polar compounds, such as the long-chain polysacharrides, precipitate out and are lost when an ethanol extraction method is used.

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