Re: ACV, I don't get it, please explain... by Hveragerthi ..... Apple Cider Vinegar Forum
Date: 8/16/2009 6:32:15 AM ( 15 y ago)
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Hver you make some very good points regarding acidity in controlling candida growth, it's actually very interesting, especially because it goes against so many pre-conceptions. I have a couple of questions though, why is it so many people who suffer from candida or believe they do turn to an alkaline diet and appear to improve in their condition?
And a lot of people don't. I have yet to meet anyone who said their Candida got better by an alkaline diet. There is also the question of what are they really eating or using. Most people when they feel sick try multiple things so is it really the diet that made them feel better? And then there is the question of what really improved? Candida in the stomach can lead to heartburn. If someone with this problem takes an antacid they will feel better because there is no acid to reflux. Does this mean they are healed? Of course not. Do they feel better? Yes. Is the Candida still there and overgrown? Yes. This is one of my problems with so-called testimonials. They leave out so much information and people too often do not realize that feeling better and being better ARE NOT the same thing. Let me put it this way. Can any of these people go out and eat a big bowl of ice cream without any problems? If they can't then the problem is still there. So why is it that we all have Candida, since it is a natural part of the body, yet we all don't have problems even if we eat an "acidic" diet? The average American diet would be considered "acidic" yet Candida overgrowth is not prevalent in the majority of the population. Apparently there is something wrong with the acidity hypothesis.
And as you pointed out “or believe they do “. How many people are really sure they have Candidiasis? Since this mimics so many other diseases self diagnosis is often wrong. So this brings us to the question what proof do they have that alkalinity helps Candida? First of all we would have to go on a case by case basis, not a generalization. We would have to know EVERYTHING they are doing. Maybe they are also taking acid forming probiotics, or the fiber in their diet is feeding these acid forming bacteria, which is what is keeping the Candida under control if this is what they have. We would have to know specifically what they are claiming, symptom wise, has improved. And again, can they eat sugar without problems, which is the ultimate test of whether they really healed themselves.
As well is there anywhere you could suggest to read up on how yeast turns to the hyphae form when in an alkaline environment?
Yes, I posted on this before providing the proof:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1385632#i
I find this very fascinating. I'm not sure if it was you who said it but I recall reading about how eating an abundance of alkaline foods make auto-immune problems such as allergies worse. Which if this is all true, really makes one reconsider the value in trying to constantly strive for alkalinity.
Yes, alkalinizing the body can make autoimmune conditions worse. When people try to alkalinize they often wipe out their stomach acid with things like alkaline waters, bicarbonates, oxides/hydroxides, etc. Wiping out the stomach acid is so stupid on so many fronts. In this case though the problem is that no stomach acid means proteins not being digested properly. The undigested proteins can enter the blood and act as antigens. This leads to constant allergic reactions that tax the adrenals. Weak adrenal function is a major component of autoimmune disorders as the lack of immune modulating corticosteroids leads to the overproduction of low affinity (nonspecific) antibodies. So the taxing of the adrenals by the allergic responses aggravates the autoimmunity.
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