Date:   8/5/2009 9:36:05 AM ( 15 y ago)
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ok this is my first time on this website but i had to register to show you the errors in your post:

"Vegetarians who do not eat meat say that demand can be decreased, and thus can production. This results in lower loss of animal life. Before fewer cattle are slaughtered, it is likely that the mortality rate would increase instead. Farmers who do not have the revenue to support their livestock will slaughter what they cannot continue to support. Even repurposing a percentage of livestock to production of methane or dairy would not compensate for the loss. With this fresh slaughter, supply for meat will go up and prices will go down."

no theres less loss of life because yes, more animals died at that point in time than they would have if the farmer hadnt lost some of the money he would have earned if no one had turned vegeterian, however now that the herd is reduced aslong as those people who turned vegeterian stay vegeterian, then he has a smaller herd of animals for the rest of his farmer life and each time it comes to slaughtering his animals he kills less than he would have with a bigger herd

"Let us not think of the loss of animal life if the industry collapsed altogether and meat fell out of favor. Without the industry to supply money to buy feed or grazing land, livestock will not be fed. If this industry collapsed overnight, livestock would starve to death."

If everyone went vegan overnight we'd have the same compassion for humans as animals and thus would not let these animals starve and give them aid as we would in a sunami situation for people, as it takes less land to supply a population on vegetation than on meat (fact) we would have exess land from where we used to keep animals for meat and since everyones turned into compassionate vegans overnight in the goverment aswell they would desegnate the now not needed land to nature parks for the animals to live in and employ people to take care of them i.e. the now farmers, provide food and breed them back to their previous wild states so they could survive on their own eventualy

"Decreasing demand, even gradually, means you are preventing the birth of countless livestock. Let’s focus on that. They will never be born. Is it morally right to decide that something in particular should never exist because you don’t agree with its life cycle? Is not being allowed to experience life at any better than having your life ended by another species preying on you?"

if humans where being bread kept in captivity within certain land and where killed after a few years, wouldnt you prefer that you sterilise say 75% of the population and put them into nature parks not to be killed ever again

"To be clear, these creatures have been serving in this function for literally thousands of years. This is a symbiotic relationship. In so many ways, their strength is our strength. We have depended on them and they depend on us. If things were different, we’d need to morally accept the lack of proliferation of the species or even their very existence as we know them today. If those that are left are released into the wild, the impact they would have on the ecosystem would also be profound. It would be horrible to attempt to correct a mistake and only make things much worse in the process."

no you could employ the farmers to look after them as they do now and breed the sheep with less fur and longer legs, the cows with biggest horns etc

"Animal cruelty is a terrible thing. I agree that our livestock—as with all life—should be treated respectfully, and not be abused. It is my opinion that those who express their passion over being vegetarian should repurpose their energy to that end. They are boasting the morality of doing something that would lead to the destruction of these species. All the while, millions of animals are being abused. Even if you have health, religious, spiritual or simple dietary preference (ie flavor/texture) concerns, please consider the moral implications of what happens to our livestock."

no it is better to let them have a full life rather than killing them in the middle just because they died in apsolute no pain or fear
 

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