Date:   8/3/2009 12:39:41 AM ( 15 y ago)
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 I feel that people are wasting their time with herbs, false hopes and misinformation. I have tried so much that I can't believe how much money I have wasted. I tried, QXCI bio something machine, reiki, acupuncture, quantam healing, energy healing, faith healing in fact a place where I used to go one of the practioners who was a strong natural healing advocate who treated cancer patients with herbal\alternative treatments ended up with cancer himself and bypassed all his knowledge of herbs and went straight to the regular Doc for treatment. Go figure that.

There is always more to the story.  When stories are give second hand, especially from a biased position, many important facts tend to get left out.  Could it have been that before his cancer was discovered that it had advanced to the point it was beyond any alternatives available to him?  Maybe he had insurance that would cover treatment and he could not afford the alternatives he believed in.   Maybe he had a spouse or family members that pressured him in to allopathic treatments.  It is really easy for you to sit there in judgment because you DO NOT have all the facts.

I can narrate allot of stories like that all day, but I find you folks will not listen.

Because you come in with a strongly biased opinion, not fact, and ignore all of the evidence to the contrary.  It is like you are coming here trying to tell us that the world is flat when we all know better and have seen the evidence to the contrary.  And yet you insist on still claiming the world is flat even though there is all sorts of evidence out there proving otherwise.  Just because you refuse to look at the evidence does not make you right.  It only shows your ignorance of the subject.  And don't take that as an insult because it is not. Ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity.  Ignorance is just having a lack of knowledge of the subject.

You folks are a small percentage of people who have had some success with herbs,

There are a lot more people out there than you care to admit to.  In fact, many of the healthiest cultures in the world rely heavily on herbs and other therapies that we now call "alternative".

most people try them once end up not seeing results and get frustrated and then return to allopathic for future use.

Proof of this claim, or is this just another of your biased opinions?

And to top it off, here on this site you have so much conflicting information being presented. Look at the ML forum who is a strong advocate of alkalizing the body in order to achieve optimal health. ON this forum they claim that acidity is not the root cause of disease and becoming too alkaline is dangerous.

The difference between our two forums is that ML makes stuff up as he goes.  And when he is proven wrong on many things he tweaks his wording slightly to either make the correction without admitting to being wrong, or the wording becomes so vague, such as "can it be..." so that there is no statement of fact being made.  This forum makes statements based on what science and medicine has proven to be true through real research.  The same research I already told you exists and where to find it.  The fact that you are repeating yourself without bothering to check that research I told you exists just goes to show how blind you are to the truth and how your bias will keep you from ever finding that truth. In this manner you are no different than ML. Both of you base your "facts" on your own biased opinions, and both of you when faced with evidence to the contrary still stick to your biased opinions because there is a comfort in believing strongly in something no matter how wrong that belief is.  It is like when a group goes to war.  They pray to God to be the victors in the battle even though the Bible says "thou shall not kill".  God is not going to choose which of his children he loves more then allow the less liked child to be killed.  So to justify the killing that they know is wrong they have to resort to a stronger belief to justify the killing.  In this case the belief in country.  Your belief is so ingrained that you are not going to look at the evidence to the contrary because this would blow your belief system.  In fact, if you have been reading this board then you will have seen me post all sorts of medical abstracts showing the proven benefits of herbs.  So are all these researchers wrong or are you wrong?  It cannot be both, so I would really like to see your answer.

Then you have Barefoot forum who is completely in left field when it comes to healing, he promotes what he calls Book I, but who in the right mind can live their life that way eating a mono diet and fasting on orange juice when they get sick. It's not practical...You have the choice and freedoms to make whatever decision you choose, but as others are offering information that they find to be true, I find it's my duty to inform others as well, I don't want to see anyone being ripped off or mislead anymore...

This again brings us back to the question then of why are you not exposing the quackery of allopathic medicine?  As I already pointed out chemotherapy has an average of less than 3% success rate for most cancers.  Factor in placebo, dietary changes, etc. it is even a lower success rate.  But let's assume for a second that chemo actually has the 3% average success rate that the medical establishment itself claims to have.  Why don't you warn people against it?  After all Hoxsey therapy with an 80% success rate and Rife and ozone therapies both with a higher success rate are all called quackery.  So what do you call allopathic therapies with a 3% or less success rate?  Is there a term for BEYOND QUACKERY?!!!  So I would expect you to be on every forum on the internet warning people about the super quackery of chemo since you feel this is your duty.  And while you are at it you can also add steroid therapy for asthma and autoimmune conditions since these make the underlying conditions worse making a life long patient.  Oral hypoglycemics that can damage the beta cells on the pancreas making an easily curable type 2 diabetic a type 1, insulin dependent diabetic.  The use of Premarin (PREgnant MARe's urINe) for menopause when this horse urine is 3,000 times stronger than human estrogen.  Then they wonder why it causes cancer and other problems such as heart attacks and strokes from the blood clots.  Funny how women in Asian countries on traditional diets do not have menopausal symptoms and do not use estrogen replacement therapy.  So which country is backward?!!!  Then there is thyroid hormone replacement therapy, which gradually shuts the thyroid down further.  This is why the dosage of the hormone has to be gradually increased more and more.  Then there is the drug AZT, which originally developed as a chemo therapy drug.  It was banned for human use because of the deadly side effects.  That is until AIDS appeared. Then the drug was put back on the market to recoup their lost investments.  The problem?  The drug is the primary cause of AIDS, which by the way is not a disease.  Yet the quacks in allopathic medicine ignore the definition of AIDS and keep wrongly referring to AIDS as a disease.  Until they finally understand the medical definition they will never understand the CAUSES of AIDS and therefore will never find the solution for the problem.  Anyway, back to AZT.  Not only does this drug cause drug induced AIDS, the largest study ever conducted on AZT, the Concorde Study , found that AZT SHORTENED the lives of AIDS patients. So you don't you consider giving people a drug that does not work, causes the problem, and significantly shortens the life of the person when it is given the drug on the basis of faulty tests that cannot confirm the presence of a virus quackery?  Tell you what , why don't you do your duty you feel obliged to do of warning people of all this quackery.  When you get done warning people with all these examples I can give you a whole lot more.  For example the prescribing of bisphonate drugs for osteoporosis when they increase the risk of fractures and can kill bone tissue.  The prescribing of statins for lowering cholesterol when the statins increase the risk of heart failure.  The prescribing of antidepressants that can cause suicidal depression in all ages, then they lie and say that this only occurs in children and adolescents.........  So go sick those allopathic quacks!!!!!

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