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Re: Oral Thrush - does it get worse before it gets better? by ilove80s ..... Probiotics, Bowel Flora, Dysbiosis

Date:   7/31/2009 4:28:25 AM ( 15 y ago)
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URL:   https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1465288

Thanks for your helpful info and advice. :)

I certainly cannot say that I strictly follow a low-carb/no-sugar diet - but what I can say is that, with virtually no change in my diet, my oral thrush got worse shortly after starting probiotics. That would suggest that the probiotics had something to do with the "bad bacteria" in my mouth getting worse.

What's more - my oral thrush has calmed down since stopping the probiotics. Yep, I've stopped - at least temporarily - because my mouth was a mess and I cannot afford to lose any more tooth enamel while I wait for the "die off" to calm down. I still have a lot of plaque-generating bacteria in my mouth (more than usual) - but it's not as bad as it was during my four-day stint on taking the probiotics. I dunno - maybe, when I feel ready again, I should try a different approach...maybe taking a smaller dose of probiotics, or taking some antifungals (starting "low" and building up the dose) before I take the probiotics.

Also, I obviously should consider working on my diet. I try to eat healthy - trying to incorporate some veggies and fibrous foods (I'll have to check whether it's soluble or insoluble fiber). But I suppose my diet contains a lot of yeast-feeding sugars and acids. It's interesting that you suggest that citric acid may be a problem - because it seems that the calcium/magnesium citrate that people tout as being so "alkalinizing" isn't as alkalinizing for me - I've found that it sometimes even gives me "acidic" or "yeasty" symptoms such as jock itch.

I've also recently learned that my anemia may be causing or contributing to my oral thrush. A blood test taken a few months ago showed "below range" in red blood cell count, hemoglobin, hematocrit, and ferritin.

I'm normally not that big of a fan of using "band-aids" (things that suppress symptoms while not dealing with the underlying problem) - but, for my teeth's sake, I think I'm going to have to go out and buy the anti-plaque, "antibacterial" mouthwashes and toothpastes. The problem with these type of band-aids is that they cover up the symptoms so that you cannot track what is really going on with your body...but this plaque-problem cannot be allowed to persist in my mouth. My teeth and gums are begging for an immediate remedy.
 

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