Date:   7/19/2009 3:50:12 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Many subject within the Bible..need to keep salvation…repentance…the simple details as it is… simple without tying to another subject..that is (other mature subjects) to be learned at a future date after salvation. That's hard for me too..seems we want to "dump" it all at once.

Agree with beej..hate is not what is here (as I‘m sure most don’t feel hate)…strong assortment of personal views of what is written within a belief is a “belief” of words as to an action or words as we IMO write in our posts on CZ. .. Action from GOD are perfect but by a personal condition…IF we do an action within our mind.. IMO… as in (st john 3:16) whosoever will…a condition “if” we (flesh men&womem) “belief” in what Jesus was…was here for..and did for us. For eternal LIFE…(ever lasting life) an everlasting way of doing . Or as in (Romans 10:8,9) IF we…have that “sins” condition (the reasons why HE came)…a personal conviction again “IF” ( a choice) we confess (to confess means WE ARE GUILTY..confessing to breaking the law) within our “hearts” (which is our mind's action to another) as to a breaking of the laws..as a criminal …criminal actions freewillchoice. Other's freewillchoice (believe) that those laws are unfair not worth keeping as laws or Christ can not paid that for them no acceptance of HIS OFFER). The criminal actions gives a “death” under law…no eternal life..but, unless one ( by non-breaking of the laws) have eternal life as Christ did. And (as is a believer in Christ..that HE did live sinless) within our contact to law a kinsmen redeemer could (by law) stand in court and say they (kinsmen redeemer) would paid the penalty. AS a kinsman redeemer (as is Christ’s Teaching) they would have had to ( in Christ’s LIFE) reach a “pure level” of payment (by living in this flesh-as Christ did) and stood “upright” under the facts, “weight” of the laws .. A judgment under Christ’s LIFE have already been pronounced (under flesh’s walk) an alive spirit having done the “deed” (no sins) in flesh..thus opening a new door to enter of a spirit now ( “IF” we apply..his payment as a kinsman redeemer and also HIGH PRIEST and ALSO HIS BLOOD of payment freely giving of HIS LIFE for YOU. All this... as within Christ‘s POWERS for the gift from HIM of eternal LIFE..) and have a “change” …a repentance of mind, heart..to repentance ( of actions one to another and with GOD) under these laws and rules for payments, peace with GOD…peace with all within “THAT WAY” ..HIM …If..they choose….That is the “if” we do ..choice we have.

“The call” …”CALLING” IS OUT (by GOD thru CHRIST)…to all mankind, womankind. Those that hear, “here and now“…IMO start a work (another subject “work“ (righteous actions) to learn as a babe in Christ. Working for answers (about subjects in the Bible or lives each day…personal work (as best we can by maturing with HIM) growth of mind..by daily working with HIM…by putting into sound practice HIS TEACHINGSSS (now that's real "work") (teachings that are written for our maturing, education as an example of what HE DID…HE is our LIGHT OF A WAY..we personally look to THAT LIGHT,..HIS WAYS with another, others and point. Point to HIM for them to SEE…SEE HIS WAYS…with another…within their mind (a personal repentance mind) as we mature within that LIGHT (seeing in darkness THE WAY by HIS LIGHT) …each day. Each day we start, start out again…so the learning…by doing…within and without are “turned ON by our choice or OFF”..an on going fact (with in flesh) as to our maturing…daily walking… (?are we perfect…right now…nope (I’m not) ) but HIS GRACE…can see my grace (heart’s actions) …HE IS A HEART KNOWER and understands flesh (compassion on our hard walk) as HE WALKED IN FLESH (HEB 2:)!

Christ is Worthy…present…for us to be presented at any time. .. but our ?worthy (doing right-the actionsss of doing right-righteously) face us each day as to doing it right (the daily actions of living a life personally)…that doing right decision…is/are our choice(s)…living as a righteous person… Living righteous …that is Christ’s goal for us..what HE wants to see (HIS loving patience)… That working by our actions one to another.. Perfect working in flesh 24/7 …365...that’s a goal…not a truth within flesh (except Christ)… …In other words…we all fall…short….sin...need payment (s) (salvation‘s complete work was eternally done once By HIM but works as needed within our reality facts eternally too as part of our sins that happen)…with each years…we still need the kinsman redeemer’s payment (Salvation by HIM for sin(s)are eternal )…HE’S looking ALSO for a repentance heart…our working with another also (under law)…at some point (s)..action with HIM and others…again HE IS A HEART KNOWER and knows we are in a state of maturing (growing the actions of doing right) but we still need HIM DAILY AS OUR HIGH PRIEST AND HIS PAYMENT for those that “whosoever will“ believes ( in righteousness) by HIS BELIEF also as a sincere doer… Again..the word “IF” you have selected, choose HIM to be YOUR KINSMAN REDEEMER…some have not…entered this door…have not ask HIM or have not agreed the laws are fair..and to be used daily as a source of actions within a day…and a forgiving nature when we mess up, repentance action…that you are sorry for not doing, keeping the laws. It really is that simple… a personal choice…”the milk” “salvation message“..good news…Gospel…. Salvation/Repentance is A personal choice…not under “predestination “ that’s a very mature subject not under this “milk” salvation message…”predestination’s understanding” needs much study…for the overall within the total contact of The Bible and The HOLY SPIRIT..and your personal studytime with HIM to see what predestination is all about (..‘can’t get the cart before the horse‘ IMO) “rightly divide” the many advanced subjects that will come (if done) with HIM but after salvation.. Mixing advance subjects with salvation/ repentance “milk” is not a plan…within the first step to HIM……but as we “personal relationship” with HM the “next days“

… peace to all--as we mature.. Joyfully (not just with “pains” to HIM as I‘m doing lately “light bulb moment” on being joyfully.. and can see as I write this post using the word “joyfully“…you see when we write it helps us first--I need to be more joyfully with HIM today)....least we forget to smile with HIM…for all HE has and is doing..and will continue to do…as we family together, build an eternal life together.

Heb 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
(KJV)
 

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