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Re: cesium chloride. once and for all! by Hveragerthi ..... Cancer Forum

Date:   6/25/2009 5:14:41 AM ( 15 y ago)
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 Selective blindness? I know a great optomitrist.

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Otto Warburg was awarded two Nobel prizes for theories that cancer is caused by impaired cell respiration from lack of oxygen. Keith Brewer translated this ...
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First of all Warburg NEVER claimed that cancer resulted from a lack of oxygen. He said that cancer cells ferment REGARDLESS of whether oxygen is present or not. If they cannot get that fact straight why would I believe anything else they claim?

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  • Oct 15, 2002 ... Also, I read a few articles on Cesium Chloride therapy from the ...Dr. Nieper of Germany, and others found in their studies that cesium...
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 Hvavergerthi -  Please quit confusing people with all your microscopic view of the forest through the trees. If you really want the truth you would seek it and report all of it, not just your personall selections. Why haven't you brought to curezone these links above?  Do not these links resemble links you have posted that support your choice treatments that you like to promote? Why did you ignore these links,....all readers will want to know,...why?
 

ROTFLMAO!!!! SALES SITES ARE NOT EVIDENCE!!!!  Did you even bother to read these links before you posted them? They all repeat each others information WORD FOR WORD!!!! What, there is no real evidence so they have to repeat each others misinformation?!!!

And did you read these from your own link?:

http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/Liquid_Cesium_Chloride.html

Liquid Cesium Chloride and Possible Complications
American Cancer Society - Cesium Chloride and Possible Complications.

In a case report from 1984, one person described his own experiences after taking cesium chloride for 36 days. He took 3 grams of cesium chloride dissolved in fluid after his morning and evening meals, which consisted of an alternative dietary regimen. He describes an “initial general feeling of well-being and heightened sense perception,” as well as nausea, diarrhea, and tingling of his lips, hands, and feet. This case report is very different from a clinical trial involving many patients and is not helpful in deciding on a safe dose of cesium. Another person, who may be younger, older, smaller, or less healthy than this individual may not do well with this dose. 

In fact, several recent case reports have described serious side effect in people with cancer taking similar doses, including life-threatening problems with heart rhythm, seizures, loss of consciousness, and electrolyte (blood chemistry) imbalances in patients who were taking cesium. Full information on the acute and chronic toxicity of this substance is not fully known. Consuming large amounts of cesium could result in nausea, diarrhea, disturbed heart rhythm, loss of consciousness, or even death. Based on results of animal studies, women who are pregnant or breast-feeding should avoid taking cesium chloride supplements. Relying on this type of treatment alone, and avoiding conventional medical care, may also have serious health consequences.

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Liquid Cesium Chloride / DMSO - Lack of Survival Studies


Unfortunately, in Dr Keith Brewer's study of all 30 patients surviving cancer, he makes no mention of how long they survived for.  Also, Dr Brewer uses Liquid Cesium Chloride with other leading anti-cancer products in his studies, so it is difficult to determine whether it was the Liquid Cesium Chloride or the other components of the combined therapy that was the cause of the increased survival.

Liquid Cesium Chloride was used with other anti-cancer products in the Dr Sartori cancer therapy program as well, meaning that it is unknown whether the Liquid Cesium Chloride itself was the key ingredient in extended survival.  Liquid Cesium Chloride together with DMSO, is almost always administered with Selenium, Potassium, Vitamins A, C, Zinc, and Laetrile for increased effectiveness as a COMBINED THERAPY approach.  Each of these are well-known anti-cancer treatments on their own.  

Dr Hans Nieper of Germany, who also advocated the use of Liquid Cesium Chlroide as well as other anti-cancer products, was well-known for not providing any follow up survival statistics, which is particularly disappointing.  Although the theory of this protocol is sound and there is fair evidence that liquid cesium chloride and DMSO do what they claim,
there is insufficient patient feedback or studies to indicate any survival statistics at this time.

And:

Approximately 50 % of patients with breast, colon, prostate, pancreas and lung cancer survived. Three patients were comatose when the therapy was initiated. Thirteen patients died in the first 2 weeks of therapy. Autopsy results in each of these 13 disclosed reduction in tumor mass size caused by cesium therapy. Also pain disappeared in all patients within 1 to 3 days after initiation of cesium therapy. This may have reflected decreased production of lactic acid by dying cancer cells.

That means 50% died in the short term, and no mention of how many died in the long term. Not very good odds!!! That is only 50:50 IF the other patients are still alive.

 

Every one here can see you have avoided one question and one point. You cannot make this point go away.

Cancer is always more dangerous than cesium chloride!

Proof of this claim? Or is this just another of your made up claims you cannot back? Let's see, prostate cancer will usually encapsulate itself if left alone and never cause any danger to the man. Yet, cesium chloride can cause heart arrhythmias and death. Oops, I guess that blows your claim.

Go on, I'm waiting for you to state this as false statement, go on say it is false!  LOL

Why do you ignore this very basic fact of life?

Why do you keep making these false claims and refuse to provide any studies? After all you said there were so man out there yet you still have yet to produce one. Instead you provide SALES SITES as evidence. What a joke? Being as passionate as you are about this unproven chemical I wonder which if these sales sites it yours?

Don't you understand that dying from cancer is an ugly thing? A bad thing?

So is dying from a heart attack from an unproven chemical.

Why would you scare anyone away from this wonderful cancer therapy?

It is not a therapy unless it works. And you still have yet to provide any human studies showing it works for all cancers. You claimed that there were all sorts of studies out there, yet you have yet to provide evne one. Why is that? Do these studies you claim exist not really exist?

 Funny how she was coughing up blood and calling hospice three months ago from stage IV lung cancer, ...now she has returned to work and looks as good as she did when he married her. Hmmmm! one more case history for you to ignore?

All of the links you liusted clearly stated that they were using multiple therapies. And the one link pointed out the fact that these is no way to know what really worked. This is simple common sense. So again, show some of the numerous studies you claim exist showing that it cures cancer in humans. The fact that you keep ignoring my request for studies YOU claim exist just makes me believe you even less.

Go ahead, send him an email and have him stop by curezone with an update!  You obviously don't care about the truth if you haven't tried to contact him like I have asked you to do.

This is the first time I have seen you mention him. Just more misleading games. I'll wait for you to provide those studies you claim exist first. I am not interested in one or two people having success from multiple therapies where it is impossible to prove what worked. So if you are an honest person you will supply those studies you claim exist.

She would be in pain and waisting away waiting to die this morning instead of going to work! Why aren't you celebrating this miracle? Why aren't you smiling!

Who said  I am not happy for him? Who said I am not smiling. You really assume a lot don't you? Such as cesium chloride kills cancer cells in humans even though there is apparently no real evidence to this claim.

I would Think a man of your inteligence would be intrigued and investigate this one case history and place as much significance with this case history as you do with ones that appear to suit your twisted and unethical attempts to scare people!

Again, a single case history is not proof. Especially when they could be using multiple therapies including a change of diet. And there is no long term follow up. We can say chemo works based on that kind of manipulated evidence. Even if the person dies a few years later because the chemo failed. So again, this is not proof. Let's see those studies you claimed exist and start from there. Again the more you ignore my request the more dishonest you look. You are the one that claimed the studies exist, not me.

Oh, I forget, you don't care about that!

I care about evidence and proof, not about unsubstantiated claims made to promote the sales of an unproven product.

After all who is it that condems traditional publications one minute and then quotes the same ones the next minute to justify your position?

LOL!!! I never condemned traditional publications. All I ever said is that we have to review the studies to make sure they were conducted properly and interpreted properly. So chalk up another one of your lies. The fact that you are so desperate to lie in an attempt to discredit me just further leads me to believe that you have no evidence to back the effectiveness of this crap. So you resort to lies and attacks in place of real evidence.

I'll tell you who! A person who can't make money off of cesium chloride but prefers expensive ozone, rife units.

I already pointed out to you that neither of these are expensive. In fact they can be built for a lot less than you can buy cesium chloride for. So chalk up another one of your lies.

Or do you just have low self esteem a narcissistic disorder and can't be wrong on anything?

Your the one that is chronically lying to make a point. I am merely asking for proof to your claims. The fact that you are resorting to lies and attacks in place of providing the studies you claim exist just goes to prove my points I already brought up. 

They can see which questions you avoid and which ones you choose to answer.

Oh, I am sorry I cannot answer ever question posted on these boards. I wish I could though, then maybe you would learn something about fact based medicine.

They can see how slanted and biased your postings are becoming?

Biased only against ineffective and unproven therapies that are backed by people saying it works based on non-existant studies. I am open to learning about new therapies. I just want to see proof of their effectiveness. I am not interested in unsubstantiated claims. Nor lies and attacks in place of evidence just because the evidence does not exist.

If it makes you feel any better,...I still love Ozone, just can't afford the wait, the time, the money, the head aches of putting it all together and keeping it all running smoothly! And when they break, who refunds this money?

You can build a simple cold corona system for less than $100. The only thing that is likely to go out will be the transformer, which is so easy to replace that even you could do it. It is not a complicated device.

Oh, by the way,  My Father- in- Law has metastatic, small-cell disease. His tumor markers are 800. He looks like he is actively dying.   He started cesium chloride protocol last night as last resort!

Do you have any choice words for him as he is waisting away and in pain? As he is placing hope on this cesium therapy?

I wish him the best. But what if the cesium fails? Are you still going to claim it cures all cancers?

 How do you feel about the fact he is in pain and dying a miserable death?

I feel bad for anyone in that position. I also feel bad that people have to be so desperate that they will reach out to use unproven therapies in place of proven therapies. Still I hope it works for him.

Now that he is desperate and scared,... Would you like to scare him more that the cesium is going to be worse that the disease that is rotting his organs as we speak?

So you think his risking a heart attack is better than possibly dying from the cancer? Death is death!!! Furthermore, you are making this way too personal. Again, supply the studies you claim exist, I will look at them and if they look valid I could change my mind. If you want to keep lying to me and about me in place of providing those studies you are just going to further convince me that you are full ot it.

Maybe you can hook him up with a 3,000 dollar ozone unit that wont be of benefit for a couple weeks! Yes, that is your position now isn't it! Oh, yes it is!

$3,000?!!! LOL!!! Even the most expensive ozone therapy units for personal use that I have see get nowhere near $3,000. Chalk up another one of your lies!!!! Boy, you are on a role with the lies!!!!

Nice work Hveragerthi!  Keep it up! The lives you are costing are not your own!

Heaven has a place for people like yourself!

It's called hell!

I am not the one lying to people about an unproven therapy. If you are making money off of the sale of cesium chloride then you are a lot sleazier than I originally thought.

ps. If you would like me to post more cesium studies and articles I will, but we all know you aren't interested in what they have to say! We all know you wont read them!

You did not post any studies. You posted opinion sales sites that were repeating each other word for word. Oh, how did I know that? That's right, I read all the sites because I was interested in what you were trying to pass off as "evidence". What a joke!!!!!!!


 

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