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I'll quote tomi444's 2006 post so my comments make sense:

"When checking my BP with a monitor a little time after having a meal I found that CHICKEN rose my levels 20 on both accounts. Not only that it also made me very angry and stressed.
I also found tinned BEANS had the same effect so both of those items are off my menu for good.
I feel in the case of chickens it could be hormones that they are fed on, and the beans, goodness knows, perhaps salt or colour additives.
If anyone has had a similar experience, I would be interested to know, for I was informed by The British Heart Foundation that they are healthy foods to consume, strange indeed."

Not so strange. The BHF is a charity, now you'd think it would be a simple matter of me giving a call and telling them that they should be advising people to eat a plant based diet which will entirely eliminate and reverse heart disease in 100% of cases, but that is not going to happen is it? They need to keep themselves in jobs, and they will have made friends with people who do research, all that would come crashing down and people who have had heart operations will be furious with rage. The system is far more powerful than the plain, simple truth.

In my earlier blogs I wanted to find the truth about what we should eat, and I made notes on videos for my own use, but I will share a small part from this entry I did back in March. The comments below are taken from a 91 minute video of Colin T Campbell Author of the China Study speaking at the Wellness Forum. I have tidied them up for this forum post (my original blog was really for me only) and I have taken the liberty to put my summary of what Colin T Campbell says in quotation marks so the reader can differentiate between what he says and my views. However they are not true quotes and are sometimes summaries, to hear what he actually says you will need to listen to the video itself, which is here:

So to hear what he really says, you will need to play the video and drag the slider bar to the 54 minute mark, and listen for around 15 minutes. You can do that while you read the text. Most people won't want to play the whole video. Summary Follows, approximate playback times are in square brackets after each paragraph:

Colin T Campbell Speaking at the Wellness Forum (2007?)

"Doctor Esselstyn is a good friend of mine. He came from a famous medical family. Decided to test the effect of diet on heart disease, he got to a point where he thought that surgery wasn't doing it."

They didn't know each other at the time, but Esselstyn had chosen a diet similar to Campbell's China study. [54 mins]

Slide on screen

"Esselstyn's 20 year study of 18 seriously ill heart patients. Results: 18 patients were seriously ill and expected to die 29 coronary events between them. They were in bad way. 20 years later they are still alive. Shock. Diet CURES heart disease. Conference in 1991. People deny this study exists. Esselstyn still cures people when he is retired." [55 mins]

What else does a plant based diet help with / cure?

Slide on screen:

* Multiple cancers
* Osteoporosis
* Heart disease
* Acne
* Multiple Sclerosis
* Migraine
* Type 1 / 2 diabetes
* Mental depression
* Alzheimer's disease
* Macular degeneration

[Mention of Doctor Roy Sw??? from Oregon medical center who conducted the above tests. Can someone help identify this man please?] [58 mins 36 secs]

"People don't talk about diet. A new simplified definition of nutrition. Forget the labels and all the crap."

Slide on screen

"NUTRITION INVOLVES THE EFFECTS OF COUNTLESS FOOD CONSTITUENTS. Who knows how many? A hundred thousand? Millions? Our bodies are marvellous machines, let our bodies decide. It creates health given the right food, and illness if you don't." [59 mins]

The nutritional effect is greater than the sum of its parts. It's like a symphony.

Slide: NUTRITION

* Involves INTEGRATED effects of COUNTLESS food products.
* Involves INFINITELY COMPLEX MECHANISMS to produce COMPREHENSIVE health.

"You don't go to a symphony to hear one person banging away on one note. That's not a symphony. But that's how we study nutrition. We might add another note, or so. But we are not looking at the symphony"

"The symphony is marvelous. The integration of it all. This is why Esselstyn and other physicians have had such great results. You can take diet and do marvelous things with it, NOT THROUGH SUPPLEMENTS. Whole grains, whole veg, whole fruits. Not plant parts, like sugar and white flour, whole foods. Don't add back salt, sugar, fat and dairy." [1 hr 0 mins]

"So why is this information so invisible? I will share ideas, I have been involved in national policy. Really troubling... I get excited about the information we are working on. I KNOW it's there, and my colleagues, but it is DANGEROUS to talk about this in the current climate. They could lose funding, reputation, be kicked out of research, school... I am serious about that. But I am recently retired so..." (audience laughs). [1 hr 1 mins]

"Two committees set food policy. One is the Food Nutrition Board (FNB), they get the data, set the numbers, RDA etc. Then they give this report to 2nd committee (IOM?) on food who make pretty shapes with it such as pyramids."

He completely trashes the report, words like "ludicrous", "absolutely nuts" 25% of calories from candy!! When US body was deciding, sugar industry got word and influenced the UN to raise this bar from 10% to 25%, and threatened to use "friends" in congress to withhold UN funding. BUT, the UN guy was Welsh [Hurrah] and the research institute was in Scotland, tough people there. They stood their ground at 10% max. He then shows a diet full of crap that complies with the governments recommendation and the audience laugh. The government say this is what you eat to stay disease free, no wonder people are confused. We are going nowhere with this kind of diet. [1 hr 2 mins]

IOM Funding
1. Dannon institute. Represent dairy industry. Want protein increased to justify their products.
2. International Life Sciences Institute. Fancy name, but this is the coalition of soft drinks companies. Coca cola, Pepsi etc. They want to get sugar up there.
The first two - almost seems as if they want to promote sickness, then the next can put out the drugs to make us well:
3. Corporate Donor's Fund (bunch of food and drug companies)4. Roche vitamins Inc.
5. Mead Johnson Nutrition Group.
6. M&MRs??
7. Academic people, who he calls charlatans

"This is where the problem is. The committees are put together by someone in Academia (charlatan) who is a consultant to industry, and there is financial interest, not the interests of health. The individuals are generally honest and hard working, but the system is at fault, and just a few individuals, these charlatans. This is why much of the information we get is confusing, troubling, and damaging, because of the way policy is set." [1 hr 9 mins]

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