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Hi Grz,

Your post: Where this was going and led...

as was mentioned in this post...

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1426178#i


so called "pests" including insects, rodents and such apparently fix nitrogen in ways that we cannot... the food left over is good for us to eat. I remember a post or two from you stating the same thing.

So off I went to research and lo and behold, guess what happens when humans get too much NPN? They host nitrogen fixing bacteria, parasites and any resultant disease or affliction like a fungal overgrowth; likely because that is the terrain they are providing for them.

http://www.publicaffairsjournal.com/?q=node/36


>>"Another suite of consequences of the increased nitrogen loading to the world, and the resulting alteration of the global cycle of nitrogen, is an increase in the prevalence, severity, or distribution of human health problems and infectious diseases of both humans and wildlife in addition to those caused by HABs.45, 46, 47, 48 Direct health effects of nitrogen pollution come from several sources. Groundwater enriched with nitrate from fertilizers percolating from the soils above can cause hyperthyroidism, birth defects, and miscarriage. The concern is especially true for babies where excess nitrate in drinking water is linked to “blue baby syndrome”, which causes lack of oxygen to the brain.49 Reactive nitrogen compounds, which include nitric oxide, nitrate and some other compounds, as well as reactive oxygen compounds, have also been linked to the development of Parkinson’s disease in laboratory animal studies.50 Reactive nitrogen, because of its role in cell signaling, enzyme and protein synthesis and many other biological pathways, can also interfere, upon overexposure, with the enzyme reactions in cells that lead to age-related diseases.51

Nitrogen pollution is also indirectly related to the spread of several infectious diseases. Postulated mechanisms for these linkages include changes in host abundance and distribution, shifts in pathogen virulence, or changes in host susceptibility.52, 53 Vector-borne pathogens require a disease agent (e.g., a parasite), a vector (e.g., a mosquito) and a host. Changes in habitat as a result of altered nitrogen availability can affect any one of these roles.54, 55, 56 Mosquito-borne infections, for example, are often positively affected by inputs of nutrients to wetland breeding habitats.57 One specific example is West Nile Virus, which was introduced to the US in the late 1990’s. Experimental data has shown that the mosquitoes that carry the virus have up to ten times the numbers of eggs in nitrogen-rich compared to nitrogen–poor conditions58 and larval survival and the mean size of emerging adults are greater in treatments with higher nitrogen levels compared with control levels.59, 60 Other experimental data has shown that many parasites increase in abundance with low to moderate levels of eutrophication due to increased host density and an ability of the hosts to withstand infection under nitrogen-rich, compared to nitrogen-poor conditions.61, 62 It has also been suggested that SARS is related to the intensification of confined animal operations and the associated nitrogen pollution and change of suitable habitat for the virus.63

In summary, the increased use of nitrogen-based fertilizers has expanded in recent decades, with the positive outcome of increased food supplies and reducing global malnutrition. In fact, some parts of the world, such as sub-Saharan Africa, currently have rates of fertilizer application that are too low to sustain the agriculture needed for the population.64 Yet, the consequence of the excessive use of nitrogen is that global nitrogen cycles have been altered, causing increased eutrophication of both freshwater and marine waters, a changed ecology of both aquatic and terrestrial habitats, and the spread of infectious diseases. Moreover, the form of nitrogen that is now most commonly used, urea, may be exacerbating these effects in some sensitive coastal waters. The world’s human population is currently expected to continue to increase by 1-2% per year.65 Global fertilizer use is projected to double by the year 2080.66 Most of these increases are likely to occur in parts of the world that are already saturated with nitrogen and poorly prepared to deal with emerging diseases."<<

The above sounds Biblical in devastation potential...

Under what would be "normal" circumstances, we should not as you state host nitrogen fixing parasites, fungal overgrowths (fungus help fix nitrogen), or bacteria to any large extent.

Makes one rethink the nitrate additives to foods...

I would think that this little exercise has paid off... :-)

Not sure if others will get it though. Reaffirms the need to stay away from foods grown with nitrogen based chemicals at minimum... and ensure high brix, fuzzy line foods.

grz-

Answer: What we are facing is the Environmentalist who are pushing Global control of every part of our Lives by taking away our God given Rights !

In this process of thinking they are doing a Good thing by Stopping the use of Nitrogen Fertilizers by the farmers to stop this Pollution, they are forgetting one Major problem?

Most farmers of the USA do not know How to raise foods Naturally by working in Harmony with nature !!!!!!!

If one chooses to Stop them from using the Nitrogen Fertilizers they Now must use if they expect to get a crop, without teaching them How to raise a crop working in Harmony with Nature, what do you suppose will take place?


Starvation, Starvation, Starvation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do I state this?

When one has Destroyed the Soil Life, then the crops we want to grow cannot take their Nitrogen out of the Air as they were ment to do in the Harmony of Nature, even tho the Air contains 78% Nitrogen !

When we have Dead Soils, without learning to Heal these soils and bring the Soil Life back again we shall Face Mass Starvation when these Goodie Two Shoes Environmentalist pass enough regulations to Stop the use of Commercial Nitrogen Fertilizers in the USA !

This regulation is already taking place !

The Whole problem is that the third world countries, like in Central and South America where these Elite Power Wars Mongers have set up Hugh Farming areas to grow foods, they do not have to face these same Restrictions, thus they shall continue to use Commercial Fertilizers and Poisons to raise foods crops and Sell to the Highest Bidder !

Guess what?

The average Joe in the USA shall Starve to Death because of the Lack of Food to eat, because he no longer has any Money to Import foods to eat because he is out of work !

As well, because of all the Regulations placed upon our own Commmercial Farmers by these supposedly Good Environmentalist, who have Failed to consider what shall take place with their Foolish way of doing things, we shall Face Mass Starvation !!!!!!!!!!

There is an ole saying: Teach a man how to Fish and he can teach others and feed his Family the rest of his Life !

Give a man a Fish and have him Begging for more the rest of his Life !

By the same token if these Environmentalist Fail to wake up to their Stupidity of not offering a Solution that works for our Farmers to be able to grow crops and make a Profit, then we shall all Suffer !

This is one of the reasons I have stressed folks need to learn to grow their own Garden and learn to feed the Soil Life and work in harmony with nature, rather than always trying to Kill, Kill, Kill Mentallity using Poisons !

Just look at the Stupidity of all the folks on curezone who claim to want to get along with Nature, but what is the 1st thing they do when the going gets Tough?

What Drug, Antibiotic, Weed Killer, Poison, Anti-fungal etc can I use to Kill this problem I am having?

Just look at the City Slicker who applys Weed and Feed to his lawn to in an effort to --Kill-- the unwanted weeds in his Lawn in the name of Vanity and Pride !

The average Joe who used to have to Live out in Nature in Harmony with Nature Never used these Poisons !

It has come about because of the Worldly Educated Man who may have become Educated beyond his own Intelligence?

The Stupidity of these folks is going to Kill much of Mankind !

Cause and Effect !

Choose Life or Death this Day !

Smile Tis your choice.




 

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